90 LS Slow cranking and smoke
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90 LS Slow cranking and smoke
I have a 90 LS with 230K and I been driving it for a long time but 3 weeks ago I found out that the PCV valve grommet is broken and I replace it. I also found out that there is leaks going into the driver side
plugs. I found out there was a lot of oily sludge and replace the plugs along with the wires.
Prior to this, the car doesn't have any problem starting but last 2-3 days I have difficulties starting. I have to press the gas pedal to get it going. Once it started there is a huge smoke which is also the reason I decide to check the engine 3 weeks ago. But after driving for awhile the smoke goes off. I am puzzle, I wonder if the smoke is due to the oil deposit in the plugs earlier or bad gas since I started using mid grade gas the last 2-3 fill up. Is the battery giving me problem cranking?I replace the alternator last year and I haven't replace the battery since 99.
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plugs. I found out there was a lot of oily sludge and replace the plugs along with the wires.
Prior to this, the car doesn't have any problem starting but last 2-3 days I have difficulties starting. I have to press the gas pedal to get it going. Once it started there is a huge smoke which is also the reason I decide to check the engine 3 weeks ago. But after driving for awhile the smoke goes off. I am puzzle, I wonder if the smoke is due to the oil deposit in the plugs earlier or bad gas since I started using mid grade gas the last 2-3 fill up. Is the battery giving me problem cranking?I replace the alternator last year and I haven't replace the battery since 99.
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It sounds like your car is starting to burn oil, meaning that oil is leaking through your valves causing oil to reach your plugs thus causing the smoke at start-up. It sounds like you need new valve seals. This could be a costly repair as there is a lot of labor involved. While having that work done, you might also consider new valve cover gaskets, hoses, belts, etc. As far as having to pump the gas to get the car going, it has nothing to do with the battery. If the battery were going bad, it would crank extremely slow or not at all. The slow starting is more than likely due to the valve leak at the spark plugs, which would give resistance to the spark at start-up. After the car runs for a while, the oil will burn off, thus causing it to run smoother and to smoke less.
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Tune up?
I agree with hyperopt. Don't jump into any conclusion as yet.
. Black smoke = your engine is flooding -> very difficult to start
. White smoke = water/antifreeze contamination ( gasket, head problems) -> easy start
. Blue smoke = worn rings/piston -> easy start
If you can't start the engine in a couple tries then don't keep cranking the engine, don't "floor" the gas pedal because you just make it worse by flooding it. When was the last time you did a tune up?
Good luck.
. Black smoke = your engine is flooding -> very difficult to start
. White smoke = water/antifreeze contamination ( gasket, head problems) -> easy start
. Blue smoke = worn rings/piston -> easy start
If you can't start the engine in a couple tries then don't keep cranking the engine, don't "floor" the gas pedal because you just make it worse by flooding it. When was the last time you did a tune up?
Good luck.
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The color of the smoke is grayish and just at the initial start. The last couple fill up I fill mid grade gas and could this be another problem. Yesterday I filled with Techron Super and it start up easier.
However the car is still running smooth. I think there is still excess oil that might be left from the PVC leaks from the top of the engine and flow in the plugs don't you guys think so?
If it is the valve leaks, what and where is it in the engine proximity?Do you guys think it is much better for me to replace with another used engine if fixing it will cost a lot of money?What about the stop leak oil from kragen will it work?
What about changing to Mobil 1 oil, will it help? I haven't actually done a tune up in a while just regular oil change the last 2 years at the jiffy lupe (cheap oil). I just started work after being laid off for a year.
Thanks guys
However the car is still running smooth. I think there is still excess oil that might be left from the PVC leaks from the top of the engine and flow in the plugs don't you guys think so?
If it is the valve leaks, what and where is it in the engine proximity?Do you guys think it is much better for me to replace with another used engine if fixing it will cost a lot of money?What about the stop leak oil from kragen will it work?
What about changing to Mobil 1 oil, will it help? I haven't actually done a tune up in a while just regular oil change the last 2 years at the jiffy lupe (cheap oil). I just started work after being laid off for a year.
Thanks guys
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Re: 90 LS Slow cranking an dsmoke
Originally posted by hharlin98
The color of the smoke is grayish and just at the initial start.
The color of the smoke is grayish and just at the initial start.
The last couple fill up I fill mid grade gas and could this be another problem.
I think there is still excess oil that might be left from the PVC leaks from the top of the engine and flow in the plugs don't you guys think so?.
What about the stop leak oil from kragen will it work?
What about changing to Mobil 1 oil, will it help?
What about changing to Mobil 1 oil, will it help?
Do you guys think it is much better for me to replace with another used engine if fixing it will cost a lot of money?
Last edited by hyperopt; 03-14-03 at 03:24 PM.
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