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Old 01-27-13, 08:48 PM
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Default Wheel Lug Nuts Under Torqued - Dangerous?

Nice guy, but probably won't be using this mechanic again.

After the brake job, he torqued the lug nuts to 64, not the spec, which is apparently 76 ft (per lexls.com). I need to know whether it's critical that I get these re-torqued to spec. I drove 50 miles on the freeway and the wheels did not fall off, for what that is worth.

I also asked what spec was for tightening the calipers and he said something about 14 or 16? So I assume that is what he did during the brake pad replacements. I checked later, and the lexls.com says that caliper nuts(?) should have been torqued to 25 ft. Again, is it necessary to redo this?

I will go to a Lexus certified shop for a fix if it's needed, as well as for any future work.
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I definitely have your tires torqued to the correct ft lbs. You don't want to take a chance of having your wheels come loose, god forbid on the highway; it never hurts also to re-torque after 50 or 100 miles. Technically everything should be torqued to what Lexus advises, but things like lug nuts on your tires are most critical, in my opinion. I would take it to a trusted shop and get it checked and torqued.Good luck.
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what year was your LS?

'95-00 caliper mounting bolts use something like 90ft lbs.

and yeah, avoid that mechanic.
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just buy a torque wrench and do it yourself.
I usually torque my wheels around 80-100
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definitely always torque to Lexus spec on safety related areas, such as lug nuts and brake related bolts, suspension, steering, anything safety related.

to verify the correct torques, you need to either pick up the factory service manual set off ebay, or else go to the Toyota factory information center and download the applicable manual pages, an unlimited 2 day pass is only $15

I would invest in a good 10-100 lb torque wrench (3/8) which will do both the lug nuts and brake bolts and almost everything on the car except the Jesus bolt (crank pulley bolt) - Snap-on's CDI subsidiary makes a nice accurate one,
as shown here. as shown here.

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64 is not that bad if evenly distributed, but to me it's way under where i'd like it to be (80 ft-lb). also he might have thought you meant the caliper slide bolts, which are indeed 14-16 ft-lbs. but the caliper mounting bolts are NOT that low. this is assuming you have a 1LS (90-94) with sliding calipers.
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Originally Posted by timmy0tool
64 is not that bad if evenly distributed, but to me it's way under where i'd like it to be (80 ft-lb). also he might have thought you meant the caliper slide bolts, which are indeed 14-16 ft-lbs. but the caliper mounting bolts are NOT that low. this is assuming you have a 1LS (90-94) with sliding calipers.
I really don't know what he was referring to, but stands to reason that if he did not get that right on the lug nuts that it's possible it's off elsewhere. From the comments here it sounds like I need to have these all rechecked. I'll get that done. I am not a DIY -- no tools or inclination to buy any -- but still find this forum invaluable for guidance on repair issues, costs, etc. Thanks everyone.
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Originally Posted by LScowboyLS
definitely always torque to Lexus spec on safety related areas, such as lug nuts and brake related bolts, suspension, steering, anything safety related.

to verify the correct torques, you need to either pick up the factory service manual set off ebay, or else go to the Toyota factory information center and download the applicable manual pages, an unlimited 2 day pass is only $15

I would invest in a good 10-100 lb torque wrench (3/8) which will do both the lug nuts and brake bolts and almost everything on the car except the Jesus bolt (crank pulley bolt) - Snap-on's CDI subsidiary makes a nice accurate one, as shown here.
Well not to stereotype my gender, but I really cannot see myself using any kind of wrench at all. The first question that would come to mind is: "What goes where"? LOL! If I in previous posts I made it sound like I actually did anything to the car, what I meant was the mechanic I hired did the work, and I watched/collaborated. Still appreciate the info though, since someone else will read it and put it to good use.
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first gen -- have owned both 91 and 94

Originally Posted by PureDrifter
what year was your LS?

'95-00 caliper mounting bolts use something like 90ft lbs.

and yeah, avoid that mechanic.
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