LS 400 Power Steering - Noise when cold
11-12-12, 11:07 AM
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LS 400 Power Steering - Noise when cold
I replaced the pump on my 97 LS 400 with an aftermarket reman unit. All was well until the temps dropped, when on cold mornings the pump would grind very loudly until it warmed. Assuming it was a faulty reman unit, I replace it (under part warranty). However, I still have the same symptoms. If the temp is below 40F, then it makes terrible noise, both at idle and with load. I self installed, so I am assuming it has to be an error I made, but I am lost as to what it could be. I have no leaks, and when warm it works w/o errors. Any ideas appreciated.
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11-16-12, 07:22 AM
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Cleaned P/S Screen
Thanks for the suggestion. Turns out the screen appeared to be clogged, and when I cleaned it a bunch of crap came out. However, the pump sounds even worse now (noise maintains even when warm). I really can't believe a power steering pump is this much work. Anyway, I can't find someone who will work on an older Lexus (no dealer within 100 miles), so I will keep at it.
11-19-12, 04:09 AM
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Thankd everyone. No, the fluid level has always been good. Re: air in system - I haven't noticed foamy fluid, but I will make sure. I have suspected air in system (possibly where the high pressure side attaches to pump). Is there supposed to be a brass washer on the pump side of the fitting? My only other guess is that the reservor tank feed tube fits kind of loose in the pump (o-ring is still there). Really appreciate the ideas.
Note: just after I cleaned the screen, in my 60 degree garage, system worked perfect. Next morning, loud - and loud ever since, regardless of temp??
Note: just after I cleaned the screen, in my 60 degree garage, system worked perfect. Next morning, loud - and loud ever since, regardless of temp??
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11-29-12, 05:48 AM
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Now, on a 25 degree morning, I had no noise whatsoever, but no power assist at all! I am about to replace the pump, rack, and lines - maybe thats what it will take. My symptoms are all over the place.
11-29-12, 11:25 AM
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Should not need to do all that. That will take care of it all but racks are usually last to go. Your not leaking fluid on the ground? If your pump is out, doing the lines and pump together would be smart. Otherwise, fix the leak then bleed the system by taking the cap off, engine running, and turning the wheels rack to rack as many as 15 - 25 times to get all the air out. Obviously, maintaining dextron 3 fluid level. Do this with the wheels off the ground. Not good on the front tires to do this on the ground. The rubber hose connecting the reservoir to the pump often needs replacing too.
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Again, thanks for the input from fellow LS400 owners. Have to say I looked forward to owning one for a long time, for many reasons, one of which was its legendary reliability. I bought one with an amazing Lexus dealer service record...but this power steering issue has me about whipped.
I have been on/off of it for about 4 months now.
I replaced the pump yesterday, again. It is 50 degrees this morning, and I still have a mild growl. I have not replaced the lines because yet because I have no leaks, so I was confident that they were ok. I will try cleaning the solenoid screen soon.
Notes: I am using Castrol Des/Merc fluid. When I did the first replacement mid summer - it worked w/o issues until temps dropped. My 2nd replacement was when temps dropped, and it was only quiet on a very warm day - and I think I just pushed it to far - because it eventually lost all function. However, even on very warm days, I would notice slight loses in function at low rpms.
Obviously - my diagnostics could use some work....
I have been on/off of it for about 4 months now.
I replaced the pump yesterday, again. It is 50 degrees this morning, and I still have a mild growl. I have not replaced the lines because yet because I have no leaks, so I was confident that they were ok. I will try cleaning the solenoid screen soon.
Notes: I am using Castrol Des/Merc fluid. When I did the first replacement mid summer - it worked w/o issues until temps dropped. My 2nd replacement was when temps dropped, and it was only quiet on a very warm day - and I think I just pushed it to far - because it eventually lost all function. However, even on very warm days, I would notice slight loses in function at low rpms.
Obviously - my diagnostics could use some work....