Advice\debrief after my first spark plug change
As part of this tune-up, I changed: Spark plugs, coolant temp sensor, cleaned the throttle body and tightened my throttle cable (again) another half turn of the nut to take up even more slack. Took me about 3 hours, as before now the most I'd ever done is changed a battery. Some suggested the connector clips would break as the plastic would be brittle. I had no issues, none of mine broke. But then again, this car has been garaged it's whole life and pretty well taken care of.
Took it for a drive after I was all done, car runs great, no issues no codes. Idles fine, full throttle feels great. I didn't drive it enough to determine differences in drivability - but I'm sure I'll post later if I notice anything.
Couple of questions.
1) Car didn't want to start at first. Took about 15 seconds of cranking, getting ever closer to catching before it finally painfully crawled into life. After it caught, it idled stable and was perfectly fine after this. I let the car idle for a few minutes, turn it off. Next time I started it, it caught instantly precisely as it should. Is this because of the throttle body cleaning? Residual cleaner in the intake causing harsh start? I didn't squirt any into the engine, I only cleaned the outside of the butterfly valve so I'm surprised there would be that much residual left...
2) Two of my spark plugs were loose. And by loose, I mean hand tight. Both of them were on the cylinders against the firewall. It's like whoever did it last didn't bother torquing the ones back there. Is this normal? All of the rest felt like they had the required 13lb\ft.
3) Of those two loose spark plugs against the firewall #4 was covered in oil. Even on the nut itself. Is this valve guide\stem seals? Or is this a result of the spark plug being loose.
4) One of the other spark plugs, #6, was significantly tighter than the rest, and as a result, both it and the coil had a very mild amount of corrosion along the porcelain. Should I be concerned?
5) Engine is completely sealed, doesn't leak or burn any oil. None. 160,000 miles, it's actually incredible. Passenger valve cover is utterly dry and clean. However, driver side has a huge oil splotch. Is this because of people spilling oil when it's being filled up over the cars lifetime? It's my best guess as it's centered around the oil fill cap. I don't see any evidence of it coming from anywhere else unless I don't know what to look for.
6) Final picture. Are there supposed to be holes in this rubber tube? It connects the top of the valve cover on the driver side to the intake manifold, above and behind the throttle body.
The plugs that came out. Left to right, they are in order of where they came from. #1 is passenger front, #4 is passenger at the firewall. #5 is driver front, #8 is driver against the firewall.

One of the normal spark plugs. Dirty, but I don't see evidence of the gap being incorrect or there to be wear\pitting of either side of the tips. All of the tips across every spark plug look the same.

#6 coil

Passenger valve cover

Driver side valve cover w\ oil stain

Are there supposed to be... holes?
Last edited by 400fanboy; Jul 14, 2023 at 07:49 PM.
The oil on the valve cover might be some blow-by from the oil filler cap gasket that Aptoslexus talked about in his Valve Cover Gasket post. And your oily spark plug issue might be because you need to do the spark plug seal job that he did in that same post.
Last edited by cj98ls; Jul 14, 2023 at 08:19 PM. Reason: additional thoughts
I'm also going to give the valve cover a good cleaning, to get rid of that oil and see if it's an ongoing blowby issue, or, if some smooth brained person didn't tighten it properly however many years ago and it isn't an ongoing problem. Because that would be quite strange to have the oil filler cap be my first leak out of this engine, ever
Thanks everyone!
Last edited by 400fanboy; Jul 14, 2023 at 09:40 PM.
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despite having a throttle cable it's still electronic throttle control, and the idle speed is controlled with the opening of the throttle plate
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I actually don't fully understand the purpose of these passages if I'm honest.
P.S Does anyone have any opinion on why the spark plugs were extremely loose?
Judging from the oily grime, it was probably something that was near the cam covers - the air cleaner duct/air chamber or something on the driver's side.
Last edited by paulo57509; Jul 15, 2023 at 11:47 AM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciGbgPn9xV0
So they sort of are a form of idle control. But not like the traditional system. Just air assisted injectors to aid in the atomization of fuel at low rpm (idle).
I'm now worried about the AVIS system in my car lol. I've never seen it discussed here - never even knew it was a thing. The default position is open for low-end power, but I wonder how many people's cars are failing to open for the shorter intake runner at high rpm's.
Last edited by 400fanboy; Jul 15, 2023 at 12:17 PM.
Judging from the oily grime, it was probably something that was near the cam covers - the air cleaner duct/air chamber or something on the driver's side.
It does appear to be the same brassy-goldish metal as the supports for that vanity\engine cover however. I don't see any other metal of this type anywhere else around the engine.
Last edited by 400fanboy; Jul 15, 2023 at 02:40 PM.










