The Ultimate in HID!!!!
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The Ultimate in HID!!!!
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With the light lost by going to ultra-blue 10000K bulbs, of course you need to boost the wattage from 35 to 50. 
It's kits like this that led to the NHTSA crackdown on decent, 35W/4100K kits.
I'd much rather have the well crafted bi-xenon projector retrofit in the other thread you posted
It's kits like this that led to the NHTSA crackdown on decent, 35W/4100K kits.I'd much rather have the well crafted bi-xenon projector retrofit in the other thread you posted
Originally posted by squarehat
With the light lost by going to ultra-blue 10000K bulbs, of course you need to boost the wattage from 35 to 50. It's kits like this that led to the NHTSA crackdown on decent, 35W/4100K kits.
I'd much rather have the well crafted bi-xenon projector retrofit in the other thread you posted
With the light lost by going to ultra-blue 10000K bulbs, of course you need to boost the wattage from 35 to 50.
It's kits like this that led to the NHTSA crackdown on decent, 35W/4100K kits.I'd much rather have the well crafted bi-xenon projector retrofit in the other thread you posted
Originally posted by al503
Yeah, I wonder what ultinons look like with 50 watts going to them. I bet they would be a little whiter with a little less purple.
Yeah, I wonder what ultinons look like with 50 watts going to them. I bet they would be a little whiter with a little less purple.
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Originally posted by rominl
nono, you are mixing up the brightness and color temperature again. if it's rated at 6000k, it's going to be that color always. 50w will just bright it brighter, but color will stay the same.
nono, you are mixing up the brightness and color temperature again. if it's rated at 6000k, it's going to be that color always. 50w will just bright it brighter, but color will stay the same.
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Originally posted by al503
You're probably right rominl. I based my last post on the fact that the Philips Ultinon was designed to burn at 6000K with 35 watts. Unless Philips has produced a 6000K Ultinon for a 50 watt application (which I don't think they have), the extra power would just seem to me that it would make the capsule burn a little hotter and therefore, a little whiter.
You're probably right rominl. I based my last post on the fact that the Philips Ultinon was designed to burn at 6000K with 35 watts. Unless Philips has produced a 6000K Ultinon for a 50 watt application (which I don't think they have), the extra power would just seem to me that it would make the capsule burn a little hotter and therefore, a little whiter.
Good pt. So as I understand it, they're offering 50W Oscram ballast with 35 watt Philips Ultinon bulbs? Will that shorten the life of the Ultinon bulb? It's definitely running hotter due to more output.
It's like putting in 85W halogens in place of 55W stock halogens....eventually, it'll melt the wires, or the bulbs will blow.
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Originally posted by siniquezu
Hmmm, they are local to me at the 714 area code. Maybe I should check it out. But damn $475 for ballasts....
Hmmm, they are local to me at the 714 area code. Maybe I should check it out. But damn $475 for ballasts....
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Relax, guys 
I don't have a problem with the 50W ballasts running the 5400K Osram or the 6000K Philips Ultinons (and I could buy the theory that the added wattage causes them to glow closer to pure white). Just the ricey 10000K no-name bulbs. Super-bright, super-blue bulbs are not the way to go.
I don't have a problem with the 50W ballasts running the 5400K Osram or the 6000K Philips Ultinons (and I could buy the theory that the added wattage causes them to glow closer to pure white). Just the ricey 10000K no-name bulbs. Super-bright, super-blue bulbs are not the way to go.
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