Im not saying anything bad about you or your product i was just stating the truth about that picture because i have seen it before and many like it. but anyways glad were back on good terms with evrybody, haha most of the time im way sarcastic too. anyways can anybody plz help me with this problem im having, check out this post https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=74555

 

I saw the pictures that Amrit is talking about, that shows the demon eyes looking pretty crappy. I don't know if it was once instance, or a different brand. But they didn't look good. Amrit, post the pics so he can see that you do have a good reason to say they are not a good product. maybe he can clear up the picture and let us know if its not the same product, or if thats just a bad install or something.

eric

 

let me back up my words w/ pictures and testimony:

For the benefit of the doubt, at night:






During the day:






quotes from the IS people:

....I didn't design this product. I thought it would be "flawless" from what Umnitza has been saying but the bulbs obviously don't produce a substantial amount of power.

Thats bull****. We all payed a substantial amount of money for a substandard product. And now we're expected to shell out more dough just to get them us to par. f*ck that.

I was dissapointed with the brightness also...I thought it would at least be bright enough to pass through the entire ring. Hell, that's what the damn ring was designed for.

Yep i do agree with the POOP, that is pretty ****ty these thing are already going to cost me a ****load to get them installed! And now i have to pay more for an upgrade!

But i've seen other Pics of these DDEs with the same wattage as you and they put yours to shame! I'm sorry man, im not trying to make fun of ya!
But maybe a kink in the fiber or something!Here Im sure you've already seen this but it'll prove my point. Given these are the blue rings but its the same bulb used in your install!!!!
also there is someone else with the clears and the same bulb that made a video which is also brighter then yours!

I am curious to hear your expert opinion umnitza.

 

Yep, those are the pictures I was talking about, now to me, that doesn't look like a good product...

 

Just wondering if anyone has seen or heard of angel eyes on a 98 and up GS? I love these things but can't seem to find any member, place, or website that can help me. Thanks.

 

this has very much digressed from an ES specific topic to a general angel eyes thread...moving to lighting forum.

 

Can they make it for the RX300?

 

well, there is only so much that I can do or say regarding the installation techniques of the product.

I have an installer that is mailing out his set of 6 that he's done and the pictures installation speaks for itself.

Whether it's a bulb issue or if it's a wiring issue on the IS300, I don't know.

The install that I did, the installs (I can't find his pictures right now) that my installer did all turned out quite bright.

Sure, we moved the product ahead and now have Gen V - which produces 8X lumens.

The pictures you've showed is only ONE installation. That installation was performed by a shop whose qualifications I'm not aware of.

Amrit, for someone who seems to want nothing more than an innocent discussion, you seem to have gone out of your way to find negative quotes. That takes time, do you feel threatened or is there something else?

Ironically, many of those quotes are from people that don't have the DDEs and that have only seen the one install. So, I question the validity of them. Furthermore, I really don't want to spend the time to find all the positive remarks.

Additionally, we diagnosed a problem with our mold where there was a batch of about 20 rings that were run that looked "pinkish" - I've informed this customer that he would get a full replacement free of charge.

NOBODY but me sells DDE, aka Daylight Demon Eyes. So, if you've seen DDE that put "mine" to shame, it's because you've seen MINE. Also, why don't you "produce" the video - you know you can play with exposure settings on cameras as well don't you?

We don't have enough demand for the GS to build it. You're welcome to custom fabricate it using the rings we have, but I'm not sure about your success.

As a final point - I don't sell a ****ty product. If it's ****ty, I'll fix/resolve it at no charge to the customer. I'm NOT in the business of selling crap. If there is a problem, I will resolve it.

 

would you be able to sell the basic light rings and the wiring and all the internals of the product with 2 of the same size rings for the ES? and also, how big is the circumference of the rings you produce?

 

umnitza, one question i have on the DDE. i know it comes on with the parking light position, but what happens if i turn on my headlight? on bimmer 5 series (specially m5), when the headlight lowbeam is on, the inner angel eye is STILL on, and i think that looks awesome. wonder if that's also the case with the DDE on the IS300? that when the headlight low beam is on, the DDE is on too (the low beam one would probably be "covered" up by the low beam hid)

 

1) before I proceed to give you any information, I'd like to make perfectly clear that it is you that is asking for this information and I freely give it. I am intimately aware of how unfair it is for me to do this when other vendors are paying money to divulge this information.

It is with this in mind, that I humbly would like to make this my last "commercial" post and if you need more info, just email me.

I respect the rights of the existing board vendors, please assume this is a simple informational post only at this point. Thank you.

2) The 5 series has a completely different style of projector (which may or may not be visible in the pictures provided).

It's hard to describe. The 5 series has a "protruding" projector with no surrounding lens. Unlike the E36 Euro Ellipsoid (which I have) and the E46 (3 series) projector, the 5 series has a projector that is surrounded by "chrome" bevels. These chrome bevels serve to offset the rings further and make them shine.

The rings that we sell, especially Gen V, have a tougher job ahead of them. The IS300 rings have an equally tough job. This is because the projectors are seated further back from the front of the headlight. That means that more "glare" is pushed back into the housing, making the rings' jobs that much harder to break through.

All that said, the brightness of the Gen V and Gen IV to a lesser degree "breaks through" that glare and is still visible during the daytime. Dusk is very visible and nighttime more so.

Everyone "claims" that their DDE-equivalent is brighter, but we've put over 100K in R&D into this product and no one else has done the same with the exception of Hella/Schott. They are the OEM manufacturers of the 5 series lights and ever their lights are incredibly dim when compared to our Gen V - this is not heresay - it's information that I gathered from pretty unbiased folks taht have seen them at the SEMA and HIN shows throughout the country.

Not to mention, instead of a "bird of prey" look, it's more of a "peak over the fence" look with the rings "upside down".

3) I do sell the basic rings, you can even purchase the LEDs.
There are so many discussions on LEDs and how they compare via Fiber optics that I'm going to point you to www.bimmerforums.com for the most info on that topic.

4) Circumference, diameter, radius, or any measurements are pretty easy to find, but I'm not going to post them here and make it that much easier for the competition to figure it out. Let's just say, it's a cosmic coincidence that MOST of the headlights in the Automotive world all have the same basic diameter. That does NOT include high beams however.

5) Wiring of the "trigger" on the DDE can be done to any switched power source - parking lamps, fogs, ECU/Wiring Harness connection points, separate switch/relay, etc. It's your choice. Just get a consistent 12V for the Gen IV and a "trigger" for Gen V.

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Rominl - you are in Norcal, I'm in Danville.
You're welcome to "pop over" and check it out for yourself.
Send me an email.

 

umnitza, how would the the install effect the brightness? I am interested in your design, i have also seen the DAE, daytime angel eyes, which are of a similar design. What is the advantage of the fiber over the leds?

 

Installation affects brightness in the following ways:
a) location of the fiber in proximity to the bulb
b) cleanliness of fiber cut (cigar cutter works best)
c) full fitment of the into the barrel opening of the rings
d) location of the bulbs (ironically, because the bulb is a narrow spot variety, even a slight deviation from dead straigh ahead, affects brightness.

AND YES I admit,
We run these rings in "lots" of XXXX, it's possible that one lot may have the first few sets run after a different one (this is something we're working with our mold maker ever day on). So the rings once in a while offer some strange "nuances" that we happily replace.

DAE = DDE copied.

Herb - who is the original copy artist - created the Daytime Demon Eyes with a direct copy of the clip design of the DDE.

Our rings were also attempted to be copied, but they were unsuccesful. You can see on my site's FAQ what some of the differences are.

Fiber has MANY advantages for NOW.
LEDs are definitely the future (actually, not really, there is another lighting source we're looking into, but it's 3X the cost).

Here's the discussion to make it easy for you folks that are lazy (like me)
http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...light=fiber%2A I think it's somewhere in there.

 

is this special fiber optical cable, i.e. where is it from?