Notices
Lighting A place to ask questions about HIDs & other Lexus lights
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

What K to get???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:46 PM
  #16  
PureDrifter's Avatar
PureDrifter
BahHumBug
CL Folding 100,000
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 23,920
Likes: 114
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by 92ls400vip
no he hasn't lost his mind... i have a friend who has 30,000k... and no this is not a typo. he had 15,000k before. i never heard of 30,000k or knew that there was one but then again he said that it just came out... not sure on the brand though. but right now i haven't seen them in person. but my other friend said that it made his stock hid's look like garbage... by the way they both have gs's. to me i would prefer anything from 6000k - 10000k.


30,000k isnt a headlight, its a blacklight, meaning its completely and utterly useless and will probably get ur friend injured or killed in an accident.

30,000k is ultraviolet light-ie 400nm light waves meaning its so purple to the point that it is invisible.

anything over 8000k produces so little actual light (lumens) that you may as well get regular old halogens.

a standard HALOGEN system is brighter than your friends 30,000k kit.
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 12:02 AM
  #17  
rominl's Avatar
rominl
exclusive matchup
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 81,869
Likes: 463
From: Lovely OC
Default

Originally Posted by PureDrifter
30,000k isnt a headlight, its a blacklight, meaning its completely and utterly useless and will probably get ur friend injured or killed in an accident.

30,000k is ultraviolet light-ie 400nm light waves meaning its so purple to the point that it is invisible.

anything over 8000k produces so little actual light (lumens) that you may as well get regular old halogens.

a standard HALOGEN system is brighter than your friends 30,000k kit.
thanks for stating the truth.....

30000k...... what a joke. when some companies they have no better ideas on selling their stuff
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 09:01 AM
  #18  
92ls400vip's Avatar
92ls400vip
Driver
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
From: ca
Default

well, i haven't seen them yet. but thats what they tell me and i'm not lying either.
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 09:02 AM
  #19  
92ls400vip's Avatar
92ls400vip
Driver
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
From: ca
Default

well, i haven't seen them yet. but thats what they tell me and i'm not lying either. dthe highest i'll get would get is 10,000k.
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 09:05 AM
  #20  
vraa's Avatar
vraa
CL Folding Team Starter
CL Folding 1,000,000
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,669
Likes: 359
From: TX
Default

Some of you guys aren't understanding the point I think.
4300k is the optimum for human eye from what I've ready.
Anything lower, is obviously less white meaning you see less from the road.

Anything higher is more blue to the point it could be purple, and then as one poster stated it turns into a blacklight. Obviously that's worse than OEM.

Stick to OEM, they are the best.
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 12:55 PM
  #21  
omgitsroy's Avatar
omgitsroy
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 931
Likes: 10
From: ca
Default

4.3 k is the legal limit? Would i have a problem with 6k in california?
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:12 PM
  #22  
PureDrifter's Avatar
PureDrifter
BahHumBug
CL Folding 100,000
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 23,920
Likes: 114
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by omgitsroy
4.3 k is the legal limit? Would i have a problem with 6k in california?
probably not. the more blue the more likely u are to get pulled over.
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:49 PM
  #23  
DonJuan45i's Avatar
DonJuan45i
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 460
Likes: 0
From: lA
Default

I agree, if you have very blue, thats more of an indication that its an aftermarket bulb. Because you get intense purple from the flicker off of some cars that have projectors, and you also get it from cars with colorshifted bulbs. My cars bulbs are so colorshifted, they are probably 6000k at least (original bulbs from 98'). and to a cop it would be hard to determine if the color was coming a colorshifted OEM bulb/projector/aftermarket lense, in which 2/3 are legal, so with purple you are more likely to get away with it i think.

but blue I dont think really comes from any OEM DOT approved headlight assembly. I think some cops still use that as an excuse to pull you over however.
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:59 PM
  #24  
omgitsroy's Avatar
omgitsroy
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 931
Likes: 10
From: ca
Default

a cop told me that... if he stands in front of the headlight it should shine clear white and not any other color. That's how he determines it and i guess that's how he's taught. I was under the impression that 4.3~4.5k is the legal limit.

I only ask because it seems that many are getting above that color value. I guess i'm leaning towards 4.3k
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 04:59 PM
  #25  
PureDrifter's Avatar
PureDrifter
BahHumBug
CL Folding 100,000
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 23,920
Likes: 114
From: California
Default

actually 4300k OEM bulbs will burn in between 5000-5300k after ~200hrs or so.

there is no legal "limit" to the color temperature of bulbs other than the light projected on the ground must be white or yellow in color.

aftermarket HIDs are technically illegal in the US but 99% of cops wont give u a problem if the light is white (4300-6000k).
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 08:02 PM
  #26  
lexusmonk's Avatar
lexusmonk
Thread Starter
Driver
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 113
Likes: 1
From: VA
Default

im goin w/ 6000k.
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 11:04 PM
  #27  
rominl's Avatar
rominl
exclusive matchup
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 81,869
Likes: 463
From: Lovely OC
Default

Originally Posted by omgitsroy
4.3 k is the legal limit? Would i have a problem with 6k in california?

technically illegal, but in reality, they just can't tell. you go anything higher than you start to run the risk
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 06:32 AM
  #28  
Vic Nyce's Avatar
Vic Nyce
Lead Lap
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
From: New York
Default

Originally Posted by PureDrifter
actually 4300k OEM bulbs will burn in between 5000-5300k after ~200hrs or so.....
at what point will it be a good idea to change out HID bulbs? in comparison, my headlights dont seem as bright as some newer cars. would that be due to optics or is the bulb not producing as much light as it used to? car is a 99 GS400. thanks!
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 07:54 AM
  #29  
PureDrifter's Avatar
PureDrifter
BahHumBug
CL Folding 100,000
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 23,920
Likes: 114
From: California
Default

its all a function of how many hours the lights have been in use.

if ur saying that ur lights arent as CLEAR (ie cutoff) then its more likely a difference in optics.

if its the actual brightness then it is POSSIBLE that the bulbs are very used since HID bulbs, like halogens, do tend to lose brightness before failing, tho much less than a halogen bulb.
100% at 0 hours
90% ar 200 hours
80% at 1000 hours
75% at 1500 hours
70% at 2000 hours
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 02:53 PM
  #30  
Vic Nyce's Avatar
Vic Nyce
Lead Lap
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
From: New York
Default

i mean brightness. i know a reflector's cutoff will never be as sharp as that of a projector. for example last night i was side by side with a new body Acura TL and the ground in front of that car was noticably brighter than the ground in front of my car. my car is a 99 with 86k on it. bought it used so im not sure how many hours the lights have been burnin. care to take a guesstimate?
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:52 PM.