Download links for Top Gear S14E7 Part 1
http://www.linkyoutube.com/watch/?v=xY796yO1dn0

 

Your kidding right?

 

I think that everything that was said in that episode was true. And I'm sure we all agree that the price is a bit too high, on top of that Lexus is not even making any money by selling the car. Something needs to be done, otherwise it will be the last LFA we'll see from Lexus.

 

Indeed it is. And it is certainly not bias free.

 

Lexus Needs to make an SC F (Along with a 3SC), an IS F Coupe (for the 3IS) and an entry level roadster/coupe. Building another LFA right now would be quite pointless, and I really doubt we'd see anything of the sort again inside of 10 years.

 

Thats why I am hoping they will us a detuned version in the GSF. The GSF will need to have a minimum of 500 hp ( 550 hp would be more appropriate ). They have their work cut out for them if they want to go toe to toe with the master, the M5. If they share the motor with other platforms they may be able to make a little money on the investment.

 

umm NO. Are you???? What other driver on Top Gear ( Clarkson, May, or Hammond)will outdrive the Stig???? NOBODY. So again I would ask you are you kidding??( there is some miscommunication here)

 

LFA doesnt have AWD, and with RWD its very difficult to get enough traction to run fast 0-60 times, so the 3.7 seconds is already defying the laws of physics. Also it is not a drag racer, don't expect much low end grunt, its a high revving track car and it shows. The wet time it ran is astonishing, 3 seconds faster than the previous fastest run. This car absolutely eclipsed my expectations.

 

Fortunately I was not talking about the Stig and his driving abilities , more so I was wondering why you are looking forward to seeing how the LFA will go against the GTR? Why? B/c they are both Japanese cars?

 

you just have to see who posted that message and history and you can draw some conclusion

 

The GTR is a giant killer. I want to see what it will do to the LFA. Japanese or not I compare everything to the GTR because I am buying one in the future and its a car that many of us can afford. None of the listed cars that have a faster lap time than the GTR will be much slower than the LFA.


Lap times talk and BS walks.

 

look at these lap times



unpredictable ways.
[edit]The Power Board
1:17.1 - Gumpert Apollo
1:17.3 - Ascari A10
1:17.6 - Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear Wing)
1:17.7 - Noble M600 (cold)
1:17.8 - Pagani Zonda Roadster F Clubsport
1:17.9 - Caterham Seven R500 (cold tyres)[6]
1:18.3 - Bugatti Veyron
1:18.4 - Pagani Zonda F
1:18.9 - Maserati MC12
1:19.0 - Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce
1:19.0 - Enzo Ferrari
1:19.5 - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4
1:19.5 - Porsche 997 GT2
1:19.5 - Ariel Atom 2 300 [7]
1:19.7 - Nissan GT-R
1:19.7 - Ferrari 430 Scuderia
1:19.8 - Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
1:19.8 - Porsche Carrera GT
1:20.4 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (damp)
1:20.4 - Koenigsegg CCX (without Top Gear Wing)[8][9]
1:20.7 - Ascari KZ1 (damp)
1:20.9 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
1:21.2 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
1:21.6 - Audi R8 V10 (damp)
1:21.9 - Ford GT
1:22.3 - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
1:22.3 - Porsche 911 GT3 RS (996 mk.II)
1:22.4 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
1:22.5 - Noble M15
1:22.8 - Lexus LFA (very wet)
1:22.9 - Ferrari F430 F1[10]
1:23.0 - Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series
1:23.1 - KTM X-Bow (Not Shown on TV)[11]
1:23.1 - Porsche 911 GT3
1:23.2 - Ferrari F430 Spider F1[10]
1:23.7 - Lamborghini Murciélago (retested)
1:23.8 - Pagani Zonda C12 S 7.3 (partly damp)
1:23.9 - Aston Martin DBS
1:23.9 - Koenigsegg CC8S
1:24.0 - Ariel Atom 1 220[12]
1:24.2 - Veritas RS III
1:24.3 - Prodrive P2 (concept)
1:24.4 - Audi R8 (damp)
1:24.6 - TVR Sagaris
1:24.8 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-400
1:24.8 - TVR Tuscan Mk.II
1:25.0 - Noble M12 GTO-3R
1:25.0 - Caterham R400[12]
1:25.1 - Lotus Exige S
1:25.3 - BMW M3 (E90)
1:25.7 - Lotus Evora
1:25.7 - Audi RS4[13]
1:25.7 - Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
1:25.8 - Lamborghini Gallardo (wet)
1:25.9 - Morgan Aero 8 GTN[14]
1:28.0 - BMW M3 CSL (E46) (very wet)
1:26.0 - Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black series
1:26.0 - BMW Z4 M roadster (E85)
1:26.0 - Noble M400 (Shown on Top Gear Revved Up DVD)
1:26.0 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ320[15]
1:26.2 - BMW M5[16] (E60)
1:26.2 - Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (damp)
1:26.2 - Brabus S Biturbo Roadster
1:26.3 - Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst S
1:26.4 - Lotus Exige (mildly moist)
1:26.7 - Porsche Cayman S[17]
1:26.7 - Jaguar XFR
1:26.8 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 LS2
1:26.8 - Aston Martin V12 Vantage (Not Shown on TV)[11]
1:26.8 - Ferrari 575M Maranello GTC[18]
1:26.9 - Lexus IS-F
1:26.9 - Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG
1:27:0 - BMW M5 E39
1:27.1 - Aston Martin Vanquish S
1:27.1 - Aston Martin DB9
1:27.1 - Holden Maloo
1:27.2 - Porsche 911 GT3 RS (996) (mildly moist)
1:27.2 - Tesla Roadster (mildly moist)
1:27.3 - Spyker C8 Spyder[19]
1:27.5 - Nissan 370Z GT
1:27.5 - TVR T350C
1:27.9 - Wiesmann MF 3[20]
1:28.0 - Roush Mustang
1:28.1 - Renault Mégane R26.R.
1:28.2 - BMW Z4 sDrive35i(E89)
1:28.2 - BMW X5 M(E70) (Wet)
1.28.2 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X FQ-300
1:28.2 - Marcos TSO GT2[21]
1:28.2 - Lotus Elise Sport 190[12]
1.28.2 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI
1:28.5 - Dodge Viper SRT-10 (very wet)
1:28.6 - MG XPower SV
1:28.7 - Porsche Boxster S
1:28.7 - Audi TT MTM Bimoto (cold tyres)[22]
1:28.9 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-300
1:28.9 - Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (very wet)
1:29.0 - Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG
1:29.0 - Lamborghini Murciélago (partly damp)[1]
1:29.0 - Alpina Z8 Roadster
1:29.3 - Ford Focus RS Mk II
1:29.4 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI WR1[15]
1:29.4 - AS One[22]
1:29.6 - Volkswagen Golf GTI W12-650 Concept
1:30.0 - Autodelta Alfa Romeo 147 GTA 3.7
1:30.0 - Ford Shelby GT500
1:30.1 - Subaru Impreza WRX STi
1:30.1 - Vauxhall Monaro VXR
1:30.4 - Aston Martin DB7 GT (with full tank of fuel)
1:30.4 - Volkswagen Golf R32 mk.V
1:30.9 - Audi S4 quattro 4.2
1:31.0 - Porsche 911 Turbo (996) (very wet)
1:31.2 - BMW 760Li (wet)
1:31.3 - Vauxhall VX220
1:31.3 - Vauxhall VXR8 (wet)
1:31.4 - Audi TT Mk.II 2.0T
1:31.6 - Honda NSX-R[23] (very wet)
1:31.8 - BMW M3 E46
1:31.8 - BMW 535d
1:31.8 - Nissan 350Z
1:31.8 - Mazda RX-8
1:31.9 - BMW 130i(E87)
1:32.1 - Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG (wet)
1:32.2 - Ford Focus RS Mk I
1:32.2 - Mazda 6 MPS
1:32.5 - Renaultsport Mégane 225 Cup[16]
1:32.5 - Lotus Esprit V8 (cold tyres)
1:32.7 - Audi TT 3.2 quattro
1:32.8 - Jaguar E-Type (modernised)[24]
1:32.8 - Honda Civic Type-R (EP3-2004 Facelifted)[25]
1:32.9 - SEAT León Cupra R[25]
1:32.9 - Mercedes-Benz SLK350[26]
1:33.0 - Audi RS6(Wet)[27]
1:33.0 - Vauxhall Astra VXR[16]
1:33.0 - Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG (very wet) (Jeremy Clarkson's)
1:33.1 - Noble M12 GTO (wet)
1:33.3 - Volkswagen Golf Mk.IV R32
1:33.3 - Audi Q7 V12 (wet)
1:33.4 - Cadillac CTS-V (very wet)
1:33.5 - Honda Civic Type-R (FN2-2007)
1:33.5 - SEAT Leon Cupra Mk2
1:33.7 - MG ZT 260[28]
1:33.7 - Volkswagen Golf Mk.V GTI[25]
1:33.7 - 2002 Honda NSX (very wet)[29]
1:33.8 - Clio Renault Sport 182[30]
1:33.9 - Holden Monaro (wet)
1:34.0 - Renault Mégane 225[25]
1:34.0 - Renault Clio 200 Cup (Not Shown on TV)[11]
1:34.2 - MINI Cooper S Works[25]
1:34.2 - Ford Mondeo ST220
1:34.7 - Jaguar XKR (melted snow)
1:34.9 - Ford Focus ST (wet)
1:35.0 - Volvo S60 R
1:35.2 - Ferrari 575M Maranello (very wet)
1:35.3 - Vauxhall Vectra VXR
1:35.4 - Renault Avantime (tuned by presenters)
1:35.5 - Fiat 500 Abarth Essesse SS
1:35:5 - Mercedes Benz W211 (Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG) (very wet)
1:35.6 - Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
1:35.6 - Lotus Elise (wet)
1:35.8 - Citroën C4 VTS[25]
1:36.2 - Aston Martin V12 Vanquish (very wet)[31]
1:36.2 - Renaultsport Clio V6 (very wet)
1:36.9 - Alfa Romeo Brera 2.2
1:37.0 - Mercedes-Benz SL500 (Ronnie O'Sullivan's) (wet)
1:37.0 - Porsche Boxster (very wet)[32]
1:37.3 - BMW Z4 3.0i (very wet)[32](E85)
1:37.4 - Honda S2000 (very wet)[32]
1:37.9 - Saab 9-5 Aero
1:38.0 - Maserati 4200 GT (very wet)
1:38.0 - Honda Civic Type-R (EP3) (wet)
1:38.2 - Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione (very wet)
1:39:0 - Subaru Impreza WRX (Europe-spec)
1:39.4 - Bowler Wildcat
1:40.8 - Bentley Arnage T (wet)
1:42.5 - Renault Avantime (later modified by presenters, posting a time of 1:35:4)
1:44.0 - Overfinch 580 S (very wet)
1:44.4 - Suzuki Liana
1:46.0 - Aston Martin DB5
1:48.2 - Hawk HF3000 (wet) (continuation kit car with Alfa Romeo V6 engine - vehicle spun twice during timed lap.)


The GTR is in the same neighborhood as the ENZO and beat the Scuderia 430. the 430 Scuderia beat the ENZO at Ferarri's test track. I have a feeling that the LFA will beat the GTRs time but just barely. I am eager to see where Godzilla stacks up against a 400k supercar from Japan. I would say a 3-4 seconds shave on such a short track from wet to dry is reasonable but that basicly puts it at the same time as the GTR. If the LFA doesn't beat the GTR or barely beats it, it will be embarrassing for Lexus.

 

I think the LFA would do between 1:18.5 and 1:19.0 on a dry track.

 

Thats a pretty solid estimation imho. It could even be faster. Look at the lap time difference between the Gallrdo times in the rain vs the dry. It does say 560 in the dry run so I would shave a half a second off of that. Its still going to be freakishly fast most likely

look at these lap times



unpredictable ways.
[edit]The Power Board
1:17.1 - Gumpert Apollo
1:17.3 - Ascari A10
1:17.6 - Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear Wing)
1:17.7 - Noble M600 (cold)
1:17.8 - Pagani Zonda Roadster F Clubsport
1:17.9 - Caterham Seven R500 (cold tyres)[6]
1:18.3 - Bugatti Veyron
1:18.4 - Pagani Zonda F
1:18.9 - Maserati MC12
1:19.0 - Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce
1:19.0 - Enzo Ferrari
1:19.5 - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4
1:19.5 - Porsche 997 GT2
1:19.5 - Ariel Atom 2 300 [7]
1:19.7 - Nissan GT-R
1:19.7 - Ferrari 430 Scuderia
1:19.8 - Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
1:19.8 - Porsche Carrera GT
1:20.4 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (damp)
1:20.4 - Koenigsegg CCX (without Top Gear Wing)[8][9]
1:20.7 - Ascari KZ1 (damp)
1:20.9 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
1:21.2 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
1:21.6 - Audi R8 V10 (damp)
1:21.9 - Ford GT
1:22.3 - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
1:22.3 - Porsche 911 GT3 RS (996 mk.II)
1:22.4 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
1:22.5 - Noble M15
1:22.8 - Lexus LFA (very wet)
1:22.9 - Ferrari F430 F1[10]
1:23.0 - Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series
1:23.1 - KTM X-Bow (Not Shown on TV)[11]
1:23.1 - Porsche 911 GT3
1:23.2 - Ferrari F430 Spider F1[10]
1:23.7 - Lamborghini Murciélago (retested)
1:23.8 - Pagani Zonda C12 S 7.3 (partly damp)
1:23.9 - Aston Martin DBS
1:23.9 - Koenigsegg CC8S
1:24.0 - Ariel Atom 1 220[12]
1:24.2 - Veritas RS III
1:24.3 - Prodrive P2 (concept)
1:24.4 - Audi R8 (damp)
1:24.6 - TVR Sagaris
1:24.8 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-400
1:24.8 - TVR Tuscan Mk.II
1:25.0 - Noble M12 GTO-3R
1:25.0 - Caterham R400[12]
1:25.1 - Lotus Exige S
1:25.3 - BMW M3 (E90)
1:25.7 - Lotus Evora
1:25.7 - Audi RS4[13]
1:25.7 - Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
1:25.8 - Lamborghini Gallardo (wet)
1:25.9 - Morgan Aero 8 GTN[14]
1:28.0 - BMW M3 CSL (E46) (very wet)
1:26.0 - Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black series
1:26.0 - BMW Z4 M roadster (E85)
1:26.0 - Noble M400 (Shown on Top Gear Revved Up DVD)
1:26.0 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ320[15]
1:26.2 - BMW M5[16] (E60)
1:26.2 - Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (damp)
1:26.2 - Brabus S Biturbo Roadster
1:26.3 - Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst S
1:26.4 - Lotus Exige (mildly moist)
1:26.7 - Porsche Cayman S[17]
1:26.7 - Jaguar XFR
1:26.8 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 LS2
1:26.8 - Aston Martin V12 Vantage (Not Shown on TV)[11]
1:26.8 - Ferrari 575M Maranello GTC[18]
1:26.9 - Lexus IS-F
1:26.9 - Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG
1:27:0 - BMW M5 E39
1:27.1 - Aston Martin Vanquish S
1:27.1 - Aston Martin DB9
1:27.1 - Holden Maloo
1:27.2 - Porsche 911 GT3 RS (996) (mildly moist)
1:27.2 - Tesla Roadster (mildly moist)
1:27.3 - Spyker C8 Spyder[19]
1:27.5 - Nissan 370Z GT
1:27.5 - TVR T350C
1:27.9 - Wiesmann MF 3[20]
1:28.0 - Roush Mustang
1:28.1 - Renault Mégane R26.R.
1:28.2 - BMW Z4 sDrive35i(E89)
1:28.2 - BMW X5 M(E70) (Wet)
1.28.2 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X FQ-300
1:28.2 - Marcos TSO GT2[21]
1:28.2 - Lotus Elise Sport 190[12]
1.28.2 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI
1:28.5 - Dodge Viper SRT-10 (very wet)
1:28.6 - MG XPower SV
1:28.7 - Porsche Boxster S
1:28.7 - Audi TT MTM Bimoto (cold tyres)[22]
1:28.9 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-300
1:28.9 - Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (very wet)
1:29.0 - Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG
1:29.0 - Lamborghini Murciélago (partly damp)[1]
1:29.0 - Alpina Z8 Roadster
1:29.3 - Ford Focus RS Mk II
1:29.4 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI WR1[15]
1:29.4 - AS One[22]
1:29.6 - Volkswagen Golf GTI W12-650 Concept
1:30.0 - Autodelta Alfa Romeo 147 GTA 3.7
1:30.0 - Ford Shelby GT500
1:30.1 - Subaru Impreza WRX STi
1:30.1 - Vauxhall Monaro VXR
1:30.4 - Aston Martin DB7 GT (with full tank of fuel)
1:30.4 - Volkswagen Golf R32 mk.V
1:30.9 - Audi S4 quattro 4.2
1:31.0 - Porsche 911 Turbo (996) (very wet)
1:31.2 - BMW 760Li (wet)
1:31.3 - Vauxhall VX220
1:31.3 - Vauxhall VXR8 (wet)
1:31.4 - Audi TT Mk.II 2.0T
1:31.6 - Honda NSX-R[23] (very wet)
1:31.8 - BMW M3 E46
1:31.8 - BMW 535d
1:31.8 - Nissan 350Z
1:31.8 - Mazda RX-8
1:31.9 - BMW 130i(E87)
1:32.1 - Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG (wet)
1:32.2 - Ford Focus RS Mk I
1:32.2 - Mazda 6 MPS
1:32.5 - Renaultsport Mégane 225 Cup[16]
1:32.5 - Lotus Esprit V8 (cold tyres)
1:32.7 - Audi TT 3.2 quattro
1:32.8 - Jaguar E-Type (modernised)[24]
1:32.8 - Honda Civic Type-R (EP3-2004 Facelifted)[25]
1:32.9 - SEAT León Cupra R[25]
1:32.9 - Mercedes-Benz SLK350[26]
1:33.0 - Audi RS6(Wet)[27]
1:33.0 - Vauxhall Astra VXR[16]
1:33.0 - Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG (very wet) (Jeremy Clarkson's)
1:33.1 - Noble M12 GTO (wet)
1:33.3 - Volkswagen Golf Mk.IV R32
1:33.3 - Audi Q7 V12 (wet)
1:33.4 - Cadillac CTS-V (very wet)
1:33.5 - Honda Civic Type-R (FN2-2007)
1:33.5 - SEAT Leon Cupra Mk2
1:33.7 - MG ZT 260[28]
1:33.7 - Volkswagen Golf Mk.V GTI[25]
1:33.7 - 2002 Honda NSX (very wet)[29]
1:33.8 - Clio Renault Sport 182[30]
1:33.9 - Holden Monaro (wet)
1:34.0 - Renault Mégane 225[25]
1:34.0 - Renault Clio 200 Cup (Not Shown on TV)[11]
1:34.2 - MINI Cooper S Works[25]
1:34.2 - Ford Mondeo ST220
1:34.7 - Jaguar XKR (melted snow)
1:34.9 - Ford Focus ST (wet)
1:35.0 - Volvo S60 R
1:35.2 - Ferrari 575M Maranello (very wet)
1:35.3 - Vauxhall Vectra VXR
1:35.4 - Renault Avantime (tuned by presenters)
1:35.5 - Fiat 500 Abarth Essesse SS
1:35:5 - Mercedes Benz W211 (Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG) (very wet)
1:35.6 - Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
1:35.6 - Lotus Elise (wet)
1:35.8 - Citroën C4 VTS[25]
1:36.2 - Aston Martin V12 Vanquish (very wet)[31]
1:36.2 - Renaultsport Clio V6 (very wet)
1:36.9 - Alfa Romeo Brera 2.2
1:37.0 - Mercedes-Benz SL500 (Ronnie O'Sullivan's) (wet)
1:37.0 - Porsche Boxster (very wet)[32]
1:37.3 - BMW Z4 3.0i (very wet)[32](E85)
1:37.4 - Honda S2000 (very wet)[32]
1:37.9 - Saab 9-5 Aero
1:38.0 - Maserati 4200 GT (very wet)
1:38.0 - Honda Civic Type-R (EP3) (wet)
1:38.2 - Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione (very wet)
1:39:0 - Subaru Impreza WRX (Europe-spec)
1:39.4 - Bowler Wildcat
1:40.8 - Bentley Arnage T (wet)
1:42.5 - Renault Avantime (later modified by presenters, posting a time of 1:35:4)
1:44.0 - Overfinch 580 S (very wet)
1:44.4 - Suzuki Liana
1:46.0 - Aston Martin DB5
1:48.2 - Hawk HF3000 (wet) (continuation kit car with Alfa Romeo V6 engine - vehicle spun twice during timed lap.)

 

what a great performance!

too bad no one can get over its ridiculous price.