Speaker Install SC430
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The remote turn on from the Headunit, every headunit has one. Even the stock ones. It's usually a blue cable, it sends power only when the headunit is turned on.
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Awesome post! I hope this will save me big bucks. My wife's new used 02 SC 430 has blown 6 x 9 woofers and sub. I just spent a few hours taking the car apart and, thanks to the info from this post, putting it back together (mostly). Surprised it didn't require much cussin' at all.
The only problem I had was trying to get the back rear panels off covering the rear speakers. It didn't want to come off from the area near the headrest and I just couldn't figure out what the little drawing was telling me to do or figure out how it was attached. Those rear speakers sounded okay, so I just left them in. This is the first time I have done anything like this, though. If it can be fixed with paint and spackle, I'm okay. Car repair makes me a bit nervous.
I hope to send the speakers off to be refoamed at www.speakerdoctor.com at about $25 each. There doesn't seem to be a drop-in replacement for the 6x9 and I just don't feel confident in my fabrication abilities to fit a 6 1/2" in there. There just doesn't seem to be a replacement for the 8" sub in 16 ohm, unless you rewire and add an amp as featured here. I'll see how my cheap route goes.
I have successfully refoamed my own speakers in the past but thought I'd let a pro look these over since installation is much more difficult than dropping it back in a home speaker cabinet. I'll let everyone know how it comes out.
The only problem I had was trying to get the back rear panels off covering the rear speakers. It didn't want to come off from the area near the headrest and I just couldn't figure out what the little drawing was telling me to do or figure out how it was attached. Those rear speakers sounded okay, so I just left them in. This is the first time I have done anything like this, though. If it can be fixed with paint and spackle, I'm okay. Car repair makes me a bit nervous.
I hope to send the speakers off to be refoamed at www.speakerdoctor.com at about $25 each. There doesn't seem to be a drop-in replacement for the 6x9 and I just don't feel confident in my fabrication abilities to fit a 6 1/2" in there. There just doesn't seem to be a replacement for the 8" sub in 16 ohm, unless you rewire and add an amp as featured here. I'll see how my cheap route goes.
I have successfully refoamed my own speakers in the past but thought I'd let a pro look these over since installation is much more difficult than dropping it back in a home speaker cabinet. I'll let everyone know how it comes out.
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speaker dilemna
i took the plunge, removed door panels and 6x9 ML speakers. surprisingly, popping out opener lever on 1st door took the best of me (cussing!)! also broke 1 plastic clip on 2nd. didn't heed ZGone's advice to be careful!
as feared, surround foam on 6x9 speakers had seperated from the rim. driver side 100% separated. passenger side 50%.
Speaker dilemna: after 1 week of searching, I just couldn't find any 8 ohms 6x9 spkrs! absolutely none! plenty of 4 ohm choices though. frankly i gave up searching for 8 ohm 6x9. Now I have 3 alternatives to choose from.
alt-1: use 4 ohm spkrs, hoping the ML amp can drive w/o major problem.
alt-2: use 4 ohm spkrs and soder 4 ohm resistor
alt-3: repair the ML spkrs. a member had suggested speakerdoctor.com for $25 each. another used silicone glue to reattach the foam.
all 3 alternatives beg more questions!
I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts on these alternatives.
thanks & happy new year
blown 6x9 ML speaker
as feared, surround foam on 6x9 speakers had seperated from the rim. driver side 100% separated. passenger side 50%.
Speaker dilemna: after 1 week of searching, I just couldn't find any 8 ohms 6x9 spkrs! absolutely none! plenty of 4 ohm choices though. frankly i gave up searching for 8 ohm 6x9. Now I have 3 alternatives to choose from.
alt-1: use 4 ohm spkrs, hoping the ML amp can drive w/o major problem.
alt-2: use 4 ohm spkrs and soder 4 ohm resistor
alt-3: repair the ML spkrs. a member had suggested speakerdoctor.com for $25 each. another used silicone glue to reattach the foam.
all 3 alternatives beg more questions!
I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts on these alternatives.
thanks & happy new year
blown 6x9 ML speaker
Last edited by pctsc430; Jan 1, 2008 at 06:37 PM.
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First: i want to thank ZGone for this post. It is an excellent post, without it there is no way I could take on this project! also want to thank others who have contributed.
now the end of my project:
i took alt-3: repair 6x9 speakers using silicone sealant. actually i took the tip from key1 http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...509&hl=speaker. in the process, i looked at http://eminence-speakers.com/ (lots of spkr choices here) and http://www.speakerrepair.com/instructions.html (how to repair etc...).
I repaired both front door 6x9 using flexible silicone sealant ($4.99 3 oz tube). i reinstalled all and waited 24 hours for the sealant to cure. Today, i tested the sound: more wthan happy with the results, very good bass, no more rattling of blown speakers. i pushed up the volume and bass to +5.
this morning, my kid pointed out that the back seat sub-woofer rattles. i opened the trunk to listen carefully, and sure enough, it is blown too!
so, again i followed ZGone's instructions etc ... took the 20cm sub-woofer out. again repaired it using silicone sealant. reinstalled everything. not patient enough to wait for 24 hour silicone curing period, I tested the sound a little. all i can tell is the bass came through and the rattling gone. will do full sound test tomorrow.
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Thanks again ZGone.
now the end of my project:
i took alt-3: repair 6x9 speakers using silicone sealant. actually i took the tip from key1 http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...509&hl=speaker. in the process, i looked at http://eminence-speakers.com/ (lots of spkr choices here) and http://www.speakerrepair.com/instructions.html (how to repair etc...).
I repaired both front door 6x9 using flexible silicone sealant ($4.99 3 oz tube). i reinstalled all and waited 24 hours for the sealant to cure. Today, i tested the sound: more wthan happy with the results, very good bass, no more rattling of blown speakers. i pushed up the volume and bass to +5.
this morning, my kid pointed out that the back seat sub-woofer rattles. i opened the trunk to listen carefully, and sure enough, it is blown too!
so, again i followed ZGone's instructions etc ... took the 20cm sub-woofer out. again repaired it using silicone sealant. reinstalled everything. not patient enough to wait for 24 hour silicone curing period, I tested the sound a little. all i can tell is the bass came through and the rattling gone. will do full sound test tomorrow.
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Thanks again ZGone.
thanks
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I am in the same "boat" (or SC430) here... The write up looks great, but the pics are GONE. Any possibility of reposting them or e-mailing them? Thanks very much!
Racer
Joined: Jun 2001
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From: Alabama
Same problem for me too
I followed the instructions that ZGONE gave and that was a very simple removal process. Thanks for this great detailed post. I did a home remedy solution to fix my 6x9 speaker separation problem. I used some Gasker Sealer. I let it dry for 24 hours and re-installed. It works like new. Well, maybe not like new, but the buzzing is gone and I am enjoying my music once again.
Thanks again for keeping the photos online.
Thanks again for keeping the photos online.