Does anyone have the Escort Shifter ZR3 laser defense system (or something similar)?

How effective is it at prohibiting speed reading for LIDAR and laser?

I always thought these things were illegal and the one's they sell to the public don't really work. Like the K40, but the Shifter is for laser and the K40 is for radar.

The company website is at:
http://www.escortradar.com/zr3.htm

 

Jim the K40 HAS a laser difuser that is awesome. It is strictly a difuser and not radar detecter. There is also a peice that does radara only but if you are looking for a difuser K40 is awesome. They also back it with a warantee where if you get a ticket, they will pay double.

 

Thanks jeff,

I'm on ticket number 2 this year (plus 3 that were "corrected", lol).... one more and i'm off the road for 30 days. I need some protection.

My friend had the k40 in his M3, paid a lot for it, got two tickets while he had it, he found it doesn't do any good for LIDAR. I don't believe he ever got the money for the tickets under that warranty from the company because he was too high over the speed limit (they have fine print). I think the limit is 15 or 20 miles over the posted speed limit maximum.



I'm not sure but is it a radar defuser and not a laser defuser?

is LIDAR a form of laser?

 

First, Lidar is another name for Laser.

Second, the ZR3 is said to work very very well in several different tests already conducted. It is a direct interface to the 8500 detector. I emits a light when it detects laser and it in turn confuses the reading of the speed at the gun. I've read of 99% sucess rates in tests conducted. That is stellar.

This is IMO the ultimate Laser protection available right now. I have both the 8500 AND the V1 1.8. I can pick up laser great with the V1, but even that offers very little protection AGAINST it. Laser is very very fast. Due to narrow bandwidth, it offers very little signature that ANY RD is going to focus on to warn you. Unlike regular radar bands which emit a very broad radar wave that the RD can usually easily detect, the laser is very very thin and basically a laser light. Your RD would have to detect the laser as it's detecting someone else to have any chance. If he is pointing the laser gun at you, you will only get a warning when he pulls the trigger and of course it's then too late.

The diffuser works by "cloaking" the car when it is clocked by laser by confusing the gun. It is NOT a cheap non-working POS like other devices that claim to do similar things. This is the real thing.

It is very costly, but very good protection IMO. I would recommend it.

 

Thanks, good info!!

so do you have it? Have you ever been pulled over speeding or speed passed them while they were using LIDAR with you detectors going off?

IWhat your opinion on the k40? I was told that didn't work for LIDAR.

 

I have the Escort ZR3 on my LS430. It's hooked into my Escort Solo2 RD. Haven't ever been stopped for speeding while the cop was using laser. The install of the ZR3 works best when ZR3 modules are mounted between the front license plate. This is where police officers are trained to point laser speed guns.

 

Thanks, I was looking for other users that have this. Radar reviews online are very biased since most are from the radar producers and a company called Rocky Mountain is a known concern.

Concerning your installation, on most cars the license plate is on the bumper and there are no holes to mount it, so is the left and right sides on the front grill the best location you found? I have the late model GS4.

I've seen another one called BLINDER that can be purchased with 4 or more modules (not sure how many), so you would have extra protection in the front. I've read lots of reviews and they say these two LASER jammers are effective until you are too close (<200ft).

LASER jammers are light and are 100% legal is most states since they are light and not radio waves. RADAR jammers are radio waves and are illegal according to FCC in all states since that harm radio waves.

 

As the other gentleman pointed out, the front laser modules are to be mounted in your front bumper. Reason? For laser to pick up any signal and report back to the gun, it has to bounce straight back to it with the least amount of reflection. The only way to do that on a car is to shoot the flatest surface possible. On the front, it's usually the bumper. In the rear, it would be near your license plate.

As I was explaining before, Laser has a very narrow signature for a RD to pick up and warn us. Our only chance against it, is to detect it as it's clocking another vehicle. Only the best RD's have a remote chance to do this. The wider field of view that a RD has in that laser bandwidth, the bigger your chances of picking it up as it clocks someone else and NOT you. Most RD's that claim to have laser defense, are simply going to tell you when YOU are being clocked since their field of view for laser is as narrow as the laser itself. Yes, it will tell you there's laser there, but always too late. If the police aim the laser gun at you and you don't know it, you're toast. Period. No 2 ways about it. NO RD, including my loved V1 will give you enough warning if YOU are the target. The gun can read speed in milliseconds. Again, you have only 2 ways to defeat this....detect it as it clocks someone else, or NOW be able to "shift" or confuse the gun long enough to create false readings.

I personally don't have this because I use the V1 in my main vehicle. I use the 8500 in the wife's car when I drive it. She doesn't speed at all. She doesn't even use the 8500 herself, no need when you drive like a grandma . So, I wouldn't want to invest that kind of money to put it in the only vehicle with the 8500 which we don't need. If the 8500 ever catches up to the V1 in detection range and features, I will definetly be the first in line to get one of these, absolutely. As a matter of fact, if it would integrate with my V1 I would buy one today. Maybe even the SR7. That's a good looking unit too.

 

thanks. great write up!

Little off subject, but you think the V1 is better than the 8500? That's very contriversal. From what I've read it depends what "version" you have because they keep updating them in a vendor competition. They both seem very effective. I wish there could be one winner. I hear the latest V1 is the best, but the prior one was beat by escort. And the V1 is upgradable. The V1 really needs to update their looks. It looks like it belongs in the 80's dashboards, but it's the insides that count.

 

I could give you my opinion since I own both and have road tested them myself side-by-side. My opinion is that the V1 is better in 99% of situations. It offers greater range, directional arrows, bogey counter, much better rear antenna, and better laser field of view. The 8500 is better to work all the modes. The 8500 is also better ergonomically. The 8500 also has the already discussed laser difuser, which IMO is the best laser defense.

Again, it all depends on your preference and budget. For the majority of situations, the V1 is best IMO. Some others the 8500 is.

I'm sure that someone will chime in and dispute that with me, so get ready.

 

As far as laser jamming goes..there are 6 main competitors.
BEL LaserPro 904, Blinder M-10 Twin, Escort ZR3, K4 Diffuser Plus, Lidatek Laser Echo, and Rocky Mountain Radar Black Widow.

A web site did a test of all these jammers against 5 different laser guns at 1000 ft: Kustom Signals ProLaser I, ProLaser III, Atlanta Speed Laser, LTI ultralyte, and Stalker.

Right away we'll eliminate the Rocky Mountain Radar (RMR) Black Widow unit because it failed to do any jamming to any of the 5 laser guns. (Avoid buying anything from RMR, they never seem to work).
The Lidatek Laser echo could not jam 3 of the laser guns. However it completely jammed the ProLaser III, and brought down efficiency of ProLaser I to 86%.
K40 Diffuser jammed 2 laser guns, jammed one to 65% and did little to nothing on the other 2 laser guns.
The Blinder M10 twin jammed 3 lasers but failed on 2.

The top 2 were the ZR3 and Bel 904.
ZR3 jammed 4/5 lasers with 100% and the other laser with 99%.
Bel 904 Jammed 3/5 lasers at 100% and the others at 99% and 84%.

Sorry if that is hard to follow...i'm basically summarizing what i read of a website (radartest.com).

My conclusion is that both the bel and zr3 are effective laser jammers. I think i will purchase the zr3 since it hooks up to the passport 8500 in order to give you a better display.