NEW MKV Supra added to the garage!!!
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The LC doesn't perform like any Corvette you're hilarious. I ran my LC at the track it bested a 13.1@112 with full bolt-ons and gets passed on highways by teenagers in base model Camaros and Mustangs. How can you post an opinion on a car you have never driven? I own an LC500 full bolt-on and a slightly modded GR Supra, so I would think my opinion would have a bit more authority then your ignorant comments here about the GR Supra.
Half-breed? Apparently you don't know much about your own LC then do you? Our LC's 5.0L V8's are built by Yamaha not Toyota, so is it not a Lexus then since the LC500 was a collaboration with other manufactures? Even some of the engine noise and the the exhaust tones were tuned by Yamaha's music division using Yamaha's sound baffle in the engine bay that's filtered into the cab of the car. Toyota outsources many parts to other manufactures and has been doing this for years with many of their cars. This isn't the first time Toyota and BMW have collaborated either. Looks on any vehicle are completely subjective as well. Where one finds beauty, another finds disgust so, I'll disregard your bias comment on the aesthetics of the GR Supra.
Why would you give a car a 5.0L V8 with 471hp if not for performance intentions? Toyota could have put a naturally aspirated V6 in the LC and it would have been enough to fart around town and cruise on highways if that's what was intended for the LC build. Toyota was indeed going for some performance on the LC but fell short. The LC should have come equipped with a 4.4 or 5.0L V8 twin turbo with a base of 600hp+ to move it's behemoth weight off the line effectively. The cat's out of the bag now about how slow and under-powered the LC is and it has really driven down the prices on the LC significantly. People are buying the RC-F instead as it has the same identical 2URGSE motor, it's faster and $25K less.
And the LC500 isn't overpriced for what you get? $106K for a sleek body style, some alcantera and a few bits of sprinkled carbon fiber with a feeble underpowered V8, a clumsy 10 speed transmission and a clumsy infotainment system that get's beat by $25K **** boxes at stop lights?
My GR Supra was $45K less then then my LC makes nearly the same horsepower, makes more torque that is usable on the street since it come in at 1,600rpm Vs the LC at 4,800rpm. The ZF 8HP transmission in my GR Supra abosultely murders the Direct Shift conventional auto in the LC. My GR Supra weighs 3,550 lbs with me in the car and my LC weighs 4,465 lbs. with me in the car. That is a 915 lbs weight difference and it's noticeable immediately upon driving the cars back to back. GR Supra similar to a 370Z? Did your C7 Grand Sport feel similar to a C4 Corvette too? LMAO. Also on running 100 octane race fuel on the GR Supra I get 25mpg even boosting like a fiend. My LC gets around 16mpg if I'm driving spirited.
No one is getting a Z-51 C8 for $67,500 put the pipe down LOL. That car will be $100,000+ easy when optioned out correctly. A used 2018 Z51 3LT with 5,200 miles on it still going for $55,000. Not likely to see brand new 2020 C8 mid-engine with a DCT for only $12,000 more than a 2 year old used Z51 3LT. Wishful thinking though LOL.
Where is the 2.8 0-60 C8 Vette on video? I can show you a 9.92@133mph GR Supra with only $5,000 in bolt-ons. I can show you plenty of GR Supras running 10.0, 10.4 and 10.6 all day at tracks around the world with $3,000 in bolt-ons. There are already R&D intake and exhaust manifold kits for the new B58 Supra motors that will be good for well over 1,000whp and they will be running before the end of this year. The C8 is a completely new chassis and drive train for GM so we'll see how many recalls happen after the first few hit the streets with a few miles on them won't we? The GR had it's first recall but it was 7 cars with seat belt welds. Wonder how many LT2 motors being assembled in Mexcio City will fail though? LOL
Half-breed? Apparently you don't know much about your own LC then do you? Our LC's 5.0L V8's are built by Yamaha not Toyota, so is it not a Lexus then since the LC500 was a collaboration with other manufactures? Even some of the engine noise and the the exhaust tones were tuned by Yamaha's music division using Yamaha's sound baffle in the engine bay that's filtered into the cab of the car. Toyota outsources many parts to other manufactures and has been doing this for years with many of their cars. This isn't the first time Toyota and BMW have collaborated either. Looks on any vehicle are completely subjective as well. Where one finds beauty, another finds disgust so, I'll disregard your bias comment on the aesthetics of the GR Supra.
Why would you give a car a 5.0L V8 with 471hp if not for performance intentions? Toyota could have put a naturally aspirated V6 in the LC and it would have been enough to fart around town and cruise on highways if that's what was intended for the LC build. Toyota was indeed going for some performance on the LC but fell short. The LC should have come equipped with a 4.4 or 5.0L V8 twin turbo with a base of 600hp+ to move it's behemoth weight off the line effectively. The cat's out of the bag now about how slow and under-powered the LC is and it has really driven down the prices on the LC significantly. People are buying the RC-F instead as it has the same identical 2URGSE motor, it's faster and $25K less.
And the LC500 isn't overpriced for what you get? $106K for a sleek body style, some alcantera and a few bits of sprinkled carbon fiber with a feeble underpowered V8, a clumsy 10 speed transmission and a clumsy infotainment system that get's beat by $25K **** boxes at stop lights?
My GR Supra was $45K less then then my LC makes nearly the same horsepower, makes more torque that is usable on the street since it come in at 1,600rpm Vs the LC at 4,800rpm. The ZF 8HP transmission in my GR Supra abosultely murders the Direct Shift conventional auto in the LC. My GR Supra weighs 3,550 lbs with me in the car and my LC weighs 4,465 lbs. with me in the car. That is a 915 lbs weight difference and it's noticeable immediately upon driving the cars back to back. GR Supra similar to a 370Z? Did your C7 Grand Sport feel similar to a C4 Corvette too? LMAO. Also on running 100 octane race fuel on the GR Supra I get 25mpg even boosting like a fiend. My LC gets around 16mpg if I'm driving spirited.
No one is getting a Z-51 C8 for $67,500 put the pipe down LOL. That car will be $100,000+ easy when optioned out correctly. A used 2018 Z51 3LT with 5,200 miles on it still going for $55,000. Not likely to see brand new 2020 C8 mid-engine with a DCT for only $12,000 more than a 2 year old used Z51 3LT. Wishful thinking though LOL.
Where is the 2.8 0-60 C8 Vette on video? I can show you a 9.92@133mph GR Supra with only $5,000 in bolt-ons. I can show you plenty of GR Supras running 10.0, 10.4 and 10.6 all day at tracks around the world with $3,000 in bolt-ons. There are already R&D intake and exhaust manifold kits for the new B58 Supra motors that will be good for well over 1,000whp and they will be running before the end of this year. The C8 is a completely new chassis and drive train for GM so we'll see how many recalls happen after the first few hit the streets with a few miles on them won't we? The GR had it's first recall but it was 7 cars with seat belt welds. Wonder how many LT2 motors being assembled in Mexcio City will fail though? LOL
Obviously, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
I never said the LC ran like a Corvette....I said I didn't expect it to but it was close enough to still have fun with while I wait for my Z06..
I did drive the new Supra. Missed that part, huh?
I didn't know 471 HP is "almost the same" as 335 HP. Flunk math? The Supra's 10.1 PTW ratio is even worse than the LC's 9.2. Is the Supra faster 0-60? Yep. But I don't drive 0-60 at every stop light and I really couldn't care less.......and I wouldn't be caught dead driving a BMW sourced 6 banger in that monstrosity. The Supra show car looked amazing....and they lost all of that magic in the production version. Thank God the LC retained all of the show car's stunning design.
I guess you don't know **** about Corvettes either. I'm not sure you can even option a new C8 to $100K. The first year car is almost sold out.....35,000 orders, many of which are 1LT or 2LT cars, all priced under $70K. Check the road tests from C & D, R & T, etc. regarding the C8 0-60 times. Corvettes are historically some of the most reliable sports cars on the planet. The first year or two will have bugs, no doubt, but that's what warranties are for.
You seem like someone who makes a lot of rash decisions they regret. So you didn't check the weight and HP of the LC before you bought it? You didn't drive it? And now you trash it? At what point will you come to realize the new Supra is average at best and you made yet another mistake? That's it's already a dated, grotesquely styled BMW at heart and cannot even hope to compete with GM or Ford pony cars on the street or at the track? Go hunt down a Camaro ZL1 or any C7 Corvette and see who goes home weeping....and those are old designs at this point. You would think a new Supra/Z4 would raise the bar for similarly priced sporty cars. FAIL.
Funny how you love to call it the "GR" Supra. Like you've got something sooooo special. Gazoo Racing. LOL. How old are you? 12?
Perhaps you should have bought that Lambo you were shopping for (in your dreams) instead of taking a left turn into mediocre-ville.
Look, Sparky, you're not going to come onto an LC forum, trash the car, and expect everyone to agree with your childish fantasies about your new toy. Enjoy it....but I assume, just like any other spoiled ADD kid at Christmas, you'll get bored with it soon.
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The 2020 MKV Supra are putting down 339whp and 427 lb-ft BONE STOCK Here's a dyno from Car & Driver on their test 2020 Supra.
Now then, here's a bone stock 2018 LC500 on the dyno at Boost Logic
391whp and 351 lb-ft
Although the Supra is down by a mere 52whp it's making 76 lb-ft more torque stock Vs Stock. Power to weight? My 2018 LC500 with me in it weighs 4,465 lbs on 1/4 tank of fuel, and my 2020 Supra with me in it and a 1/4 tank of fuel weighs 3,550 lbs. I weighed them both at Wild Horse Race Track in Chandler, AZ on the track's scale. Power to weight goes to the Supra hands down with a 915 lb. weight advantage and 76 lb-ft more torque over the LC500.
Then why do you need a 500hp mid-engine Corvette with a DCT with launch control allowing a sub 3 second 0-60 if you just plan on farting around trying to look cool? Do you think buying a C8 will impress your neighbors and colleagues, or some girls who are half your age? LMAO
I read the specs on the LC and test drove it before I bought the car I did not have a chance to weigh the car nor did I have a chance to test it on a track before buying. I also thought there would be tuner support to get around the stock power as well. A fact is a fact though, it's a very heavy, slow and clumsy car despite being a great GT cruiser. Lot of people thought the way you do about the MKIV Supra back in the 90's and early 2000's until the tuner community modded and tuned the 2JZ to destroy many big block V8s, V10 and even V12's that were blown or turbo. Newer ZL1 and C7's run high 11's the MKV Supra is right there nearly bone stock with a 3.0i6 not sure where you were going with that comparison.
The model is titled a GR Supra. I did not make up the acronym. You drive an LC500 but don't know who Gazoo Racing is? Go sell your Japanese car and stick with your precious GM products. You're on a Lexus forum numb nuts no one here cares about the C8 or you buying one. The Supra is a Toyota = Toyota Motor Corporation, you know the same company that owns Lexus? Quite relative to a Lexus forum HELLO!!!
I have owned Lamborghini in the past as well as Ferrari and Porsche and many people here in AZ know this info? Have you owned a Lamborghini? LOL
Sparky? What are you 70 years old? You are on a Lexus forum and completely bashing a newly released Toyota while taking personal shots at a forum members character in the process. You're an ***. Please get the C8 and PM when you want to line it up and be embarrassed.
Now then, here's a bone stock 2018 LC500 on the dyno at Boost Logic
Although the Supra is down by a mere 52whp it's making 76 lb-ft more torque stock Vs Stock. Power to weight? My 2018 LC500 with me in it weighs 4,465 lbs on 1/4 tank of fuel, and my 2020 Supra with me in it and a 1/4 tank of fuel weighs 3,550 lbs. I weighed them both at Wild Horse Race Track in Chandler, AZ on the track's scale. Power to weight goes to the Supra hands down with a 915 lb. weight advantage and 76 lb-ft more torque over the LC500.
You seem like someone who makes a lot of rash decisions they regret. So you didn't check the weight and HP of the LC before you bought it? You didn't drive it? And now you trash it? At what point will you come to realize the new Supra is average at best and you made yet another mistake? That's it's already a dated, grotesquely styled BMW at heart and cannot even hope to compete with GM or Ford pony cars on the street or at the track? Go hunt down a Camaro ZL1 or any C7 Corvette and see who goes home weeping....and those are old designs at this point. You would think a new Supra/Z4 would raise the bar for similarly priced sporty cars. FAIL.
Sparky? What are you 70 years old? You are on a Lexus forum and completely bashing a newly released Toyota while taking personal shots at a forum members character in the process. You're an ***. Please get the C8 and PM when you want to line it up and be embarrassed.
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Take a look at just 3 of the 100 or so videos I found from Lexus on the LC500. Are they not advertising performance in these videos? Ripping and drifting through a parking garage, ripping through canyons and driving spirited in the city are all aimed at fishing for buyers who are seeking performance oriented cars. Yes I was duped and sadly everyone on here who bought one was too LMAO.
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Take a look at just 3 of the 100 or so videos I found from Lexus on the LC500. Are they not advertising performance in these videos? Ripping and drifting through a parking garage, ripping through canyons and driving spirited in the city are all aimed at fishing for buyers who are seeking performance oriented cars. Yes I was duped and sadly everyone on here who bought one was too LMAO.
https://youtu.be/Pw8aAHStBo0
https://youtu.be/0aJ50S3QSl8
https://youtu.be/JSfwxOdHO68
https://youtu.be/Pw8aAHStBo0
https://youtu.be/0aJ50S3QSl8
https://youtu.be/JSfwxOdHO68
You were duped! Call the cops!! You are freaking hilarious. You should be writing for Trump. Everyone here was duped? Speak for yourself. I knew exactly what I was buying and had no illusions that crushed me so much that I had to go out and buy a BMW in an ugly suit. Sounds like you were duped again, Sparky.
I had a '95 Supra TT and it was spectacular for its time. Maybe someday Toyota will actually make a legitimate follow up that is just as dominating in the current auto world as the last one was. Keep trying to convince yourself that this car is actually relevant. It ain't. It's a sad, shortcut attempt to capitalize on a legendary name.....nothing more.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into an endless pissing match with a fanboy idiot. Enjoy your Z4.
BTW, next time you go pick up another mistake out of town, there a new thing: airplanes. You don't actually have to drive a rental car 700 miles to get to another location.
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