is 250 vs es350
Guys, comparing the is and new es lexus line- which model is considered more upscale?
I checked the canadian lexus site and it seems like you get more for the buck with the es350. Everything is standard that is not in the is250 rwd automatic until you add packages or options. and the es beautiful and fast too.
once you add options and packages to a lexus is250rwd automatic its almost the price of the standard lexus es350.
I checked the canadian lexus site and it seems like you get more for the buck with the es350. Everything is standard that is not in the is250 rwd automatic until you add packages or options. and the es beautiful and fast too.
once you add options and packages to a lexus is250rwd automatic its almost the price of the standard lexus es350.
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Originally Posted by tonee8519
once you add options and packages to a lexus is250rwd automatic its almost the price of the standard lexus es350.
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Originally Posted by ra1n
Is not the ES a higher class than the IS?
Personally, if I was even considering the ES, I'd just give up and go with a top end Camry. Have you guys seen the features available on the Camry? With Nav and all, you might as well...
Between the ES and IS, I'd probably choose the IS for the appearance, but that's just me. I know you'll get far more for your dollar if you get the ES, and even more so if you buy the Camry, but I got the IS because it was the car I wanted. The IS versus similar cars in it's class, well, for the money, you get the best feature set on the IS than any other competitor in my opinion.
-Brian
The IS and ES are functionally different.
You really can't ask which is more luxurious/upscale. If you load the cars fully, you'll find that both offer a lot of luxury. As for "Upscale", I would give the ES a slight edge in status symbol as the IS still has remants of percieved lower quality from its Toyota Altezza history within the Lexus brand. Perceptions and assumptions can be misleading...
If we use the word "Upscale," I would find the ES to provide more luxury comfort, a more plush ride, and more passenger-oriented amenities. This is what people find "upscale." However, the IS provides more performance, more driver engagement, and more driver-oriented amenities. The IS is a well rounded performance+luxury car, and is also categorically "upscale." However, we can't say performance is luxurious as performance can be had by riced Civics or WRXs.
Both the ES and IS are up-the-scale/upscale compared to other cars out there. The ES dominates its category when you compare it to the TS or E-Class or the such. The IS dominates its category when you compare it to the G35 or (let's not start the battle again...) 3-Series or the such. But between the two, you really can't say one is less/more luxurious/upscale.
You really can't ask which is more luxurious/upscale. If you load the cars fully, you'll find that both offer a lot of luxury. As for "Upscale", I would give the ES a slight edge in status symbol as the IS still has remants of percieved lower quality from its Toyota Altezza history within the Lexus brand. Perceptions and assumptions can be misleading...
If we use the word "Upscale," I would find the ES to provide more luxury comfort, a more plush ride, and more passenger-oriented amenities. This is what people find "upscale." However, the IS provides more performance, more driver engagement, and more driver-oriented amenities. The IS is a well rounded performance+luxury car, and is also categorically "upscale." However, we can't say performance is luxurious as performance can be had by riced Civics or WRXs.
Both the ES and IS are up-the-scale/upscale compared to other cars out there. The ES dominates its category when you compare it to the TS or E-Class or the such. The IS dominates its category when you compare it to the G35 or (let's not start the battle again...) 3-Series or the such. But between the two, you really can't say one is less/more luxurious/upscale.
I always thought the ES was in a slightly better class... kinda like IS is a 3 or C and the ES is the E or 5 or honestly... between the C / 3 and E / 5. and the LS was the S or 7.
Alwys seemed to me the ES just wasnt up the scale of the E or 5 but the IS and LS were equilivalent to Mercs and BMWs comparitave model.
Alwys seemed to me the ES just wasnt up the scale of the E or 5 but the IS and LS were equilivalent to Mercs and BMWs comparitave model.
Originally Posted by EBMCS03
I always thought the ES was in a slightly better class... kinda like IS is a 3 or C and the ES is the E or 5 or honestly... between the C / 3 and E / 5. and the LS was the S or 7.
Alwys seemed to me the ES just wasnt up the scale of the E or 5 but the IS and LS were equilivalent to Mercs and BMWs comparitave model.
Alwys seemed to me the ES just wasnt up the scale of the E or 5 but the IS and LS were equilivalent to Mercs and BMWs comparitave model.
GS = E class, 5 Series
LS = S class, 7 Series







