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Old May 24, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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Guys, comparing the is and new es lexus line- which model is considered more upscale?


I checked the canadian lexus site and it seems like you get more for the buck with the es350. Everything is standard that is not in the is250 rwd automatic until you add packages or options. and the es beautiful and fast too.


once you add options and packages to a lexus is250rwd automatic its almost the price of the standard lexus es350.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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ES350: great luxury, decent performance
IS350: great performance, decent luxury
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Old May 24, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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The ES looks exactly like the camry... lol..
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Old May 24, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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and the camry looks alright.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tonee8519
once you add options and packages to a lexus is250rwd automatic its almost the price of the standard lexus es350.
It will be true if you just want a bone stock ES as oppose to a fully loaded IS250. A dencently equipped ES is at least 40K if not more.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Is not the ES a higher class than the IS?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by doctorttt
The ES looks exactly like the camry... lol..
hmm, never saw that until you just told me. lol
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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Is not the ES a higher class than the IS?
No, they are actually both considered entry level cars, but they are purpose built for different purposes. ES = Luxury, IS = Sport Luxury.

Personally, if I was even considering the ES, I'd just give up and go with a top end Camry. Have you guys seen the features available on the Camry? With Nav and all, you might as well...

Between the ES and IS, I'd probably choose the IS for the appearance, but that's just me. I know you'll get far more for your dollar if you get the ES, and even more so if you buy the Camry, but I got the IS because it was the car I wanted. The IS versus similar cars in it's class, well, for the money, you get the best feature set on the IS than any other competitor in my opinion.

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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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The IS and ES are functionally different.

You really can't ask which is more luxurious/upscale. If you load the cars fully, you'll find that both offer a lot of luxury. As for "Upscale", I would give the ES a slight edge in status symbol as the IS still has remants of percieved lower quality from its Toyota Altezza history within the Lexus brand. Perceptions and assumptions can be misleading...

If we use the word "Upscale," I would find the ES to provide more luxury comfort, a more plush ride, and more passenger-oriented amenities. This is what people find "upscale." However, the IS provides more performance, more driver engagement, and more driver-oriented amenities. The IS is a well rounded performance+luxury car, and is also categorically "upscale." However, we can't say performance is luxurious as performance can be had by riced Civics or WRXs.

Both the ES and IS are up-the-scale/upscale compared to other cars out there. The ES dominates its category when you compare it to the TS or E-Class or the such. The IS dominates its category when you compare it to the G35 or (let's not start the battle again...) 3-Series or the such. But between the two, you really can't say one is less/more luxurious/upscale.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Equivalently equppped cars, IS 350 costs more than the ES 350. I'm sure that's due to the engine.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TimboIS
Equivalently equppped cars, IS 350 costs more than the ES 350. I'm sure that's due to the engine.
But the comparison was between the IS250 not the IS350
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Style2k6
But the comparison was between the IS250 not the IS350
Then no question, ES hands down (the engine is just better than the 2.5L).
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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I always thought the ES was in a slightly better class... kinda like IS is a 3 or C and the ES is the E or 5 or honestly... between the C / 3 and E / 5. and the LS was the S or 7.

Alwys seemed to me the ES just wasnt up the scale of the E or 5 but the IS and LS were equilivalent to Mercs and BMWs comparitave model.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03
I always thought the ES was in a slightly better class... kinda like IS is a 3 or C and the ES is the E or 5 or honestly... between the C / 3 and E / 5. and the LS was the S or 7.

Alwys seemed to me the ES just wasnt up the scale of the E or 5 but the IS and LS were equilivalent to Mercs and BMWs comparitave model.
IS / ES = C class , 3 Series
GS = E class, 5 Series
LS = S class, 7 Series
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Old May 24, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TimboIS
IS / ES = C class , 3 Series
GS = E class, 5 Series
LS = S class, 7 Series
Oh ya thats right.. theres the GS... that makes sense now.
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