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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 05:59 AM
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Hi,
I’m looking to lower my 2008 ISF roughly 2-2 1/2 inches. New Zealand regulations state camber needs to be within .5 degree from factory oem spec to obtain a cert.
Has anyone here managed to lower their car that much and correct camber back to factory?
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 04:29 PM
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why does NZ hate stance nation so much? sorry, i had to ask.
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why does NZ hate stance nation so much? sorry, i had to ask.
I think they just hate modified cars in general. We have a lot of people who give us car enthusiasts a bad rep
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ameliorate
I think they just hate modified cars in general. We have a lot of people who give us car enthusiasts a bad rep
You might want to contact Mike at shopfigs.com they make a lot of suspension parts and can probably get you what you need.
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 06:33 PM
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You might want to contact Mike at shopfigs.com they make a lot of suspension parts and can probably get you what you need.
Thanks, I did shoot him a message and he said basically it’s impossible to get to within .5 with a drop that low. So thought I’d try here incase anyone had any luck with other products
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Originally Posted by ameliorate
Thanks, I did shoot him a message and he said basically it’s impossible to get to within .5 with a drop that low. So thought I’d try here incase anyone had any luck with other products
Sorry but if Mike says its not possible then I doubt you will find much/anything to the contrary. He is definitely very high up (if not at the top) the list of people with knowledge of and experience with this platform.
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Figs will make custom products to suit anyone’s needs, so if Mike said it can’t be done, then it probably can’t. The next question is how low can you go and get it within that range. The final question is, when are you moving?
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The real question is why do you want to go that low? It's going to kill mechanical performance. Roll center will be subterranean, and roll couple will be super long. Handling will be ugly.
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Originally Posted by Jwconeil
Figs will make custom products to suit anyone’s needs, so if Mike said it can’t be done, then it probably can’t. The next question is how low can you go and get it within that range. The final question is, when are you moving?
The first question is something I’d be keen to know also
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The real question is why do you want to go that low? It's going to kill mechanical performance. Roll center will be subterranean, and roll couple will be super long. Handling will be ugly.
it’s a DD so willing to sacrifice some handling to get rid of the gap between the tyre and fender.


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You'd be way better off starting with a 255/30/20. It's very close to the OEM diameter. The 245/30/20 you have is enough smaller to make the gap look pretty large. It would also put the OEM suspension geometry a lot closer to design spec. Then lowering maybe 10-15mm would be sufficient and would have a small impact on roll center, roll couple, and instant center. I run 255/35/19 on the front. It works well and makes the wheel gap look at lot less even at stock ride height.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
You'd be way better off starting with a 255/30/20. It's very close to the OEM diameter. The 245/30/20 you have is enough smaller to make the gap look pretty large. It would also put the OEM suspension geometry a lot closer to design spec. Then lowering maybe 10-15mm would be sufficient and would have a small impact on roll center, roll couple, and instant center. I run 255/35/19 on the front. It works well and makes the wheel gap look at lot less even at stock ride height.
Thanks for the suggestion. Might provide a little more comfortable ride too.
I found this camber guideline for certification in NZ. To me it reads, if the camber is beyond .5 degree that they can still allow a cert given the vehicle is safe. The cert guy I chatted to seemed pretty firm on the .5


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Thanks for the suggestion. Might provide a little more comfortable ride too.
I found this camber guideline for certification in NZ. To me it reads, if the camber is beyond .5 degree that they can still allow a cert given the vehicle is safe. The cert guy I chatted to seemed pretty firm on the .5
Thought I’d mention for any New Zealanders who come across this thread, aftermarket rear lower control arms are also illegal with coilovers. Rear Upper is fine. Also front upper control arms and adjustable ball joints are ok.
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Originally Posted by ameliorate
Thought I’d mention for any New Zealanders who come across this thread, aftermarket rear lower control arms are also illegal with coilovers. Rear Upper is fine. Also front upper control arms and adjustable ball joints are ok.
That's bizarre. But then again, reading the news from New Zealand these days, I'm not surprised. And yes, been to the north island, hiked the Tongariro and spent a week in Waikato while working for an NZ company.
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Old Aug 29, 2020 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ameliorate
Thought I’d mention for any New Zealanders who come across this thread, aftermarket rear lower control arms are also illegal with coilovers. Rear Upper is fine. Also front upper control arms and adjustable ball joints are ok.
Australia used to be extremely strict with mods similar to NZ but seems like things have changed over the past 10 to 20 years.
Hope NZ follows a similar path.
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