MForce ECU - Crackle, Pop Tune
11-06-18, 01:21 AM
#1
MForce ECU - Crackle, Pop Tune
There is a tuner called MForce, fairly new based in Canada who does ECU tuning for a variety of cars. They recently posted an IS F that had crackles, and pops which a lot of people where looking for. I sourced an instagram video below. Let me know your guys thoughts. I've asked for pricing, but he hasn't replied. Maybe we will have a possible group buy?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BocxZeqA6CN/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=16hxiwi59ypo
Little bit of my input, I believe its adjustable, I'm not sure if it will pop only in sport mode. Im waiting for answers
https://www.instagram.com/p/BocxZeqA6CN/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=16hxiwi59ypo
Little bit of my input, I believe its adjustable, I'm not sure if it will pop only in sport mode. Im waiting for answers
11-07-18, 06:43 AM
#6
Just my opinion but when he gets off the throttle it sounds like firecrackers going off. Just sound to artificial. I'd rather hear the deep rumble and rev match down shift of ISF than artificial snap crackle and pop of this tune. Makes it sound like ricer to me. If the car did it on its own and subtle like some exotic supercars then that's one thing but to artificially induce this noise it just sounds fake and obviously over done. Every body is entitle to there own thing its there car so they can do what they like. Just my opinion, it he wants to do this popping sound tone it down.
Last edited by Weapon F; 11-07-18 at 06:47 AM.
11-09-18, 10:53 AM
#7
Just my opinion but when he gets off the throttle it sounds like firecrackers going off. Just sound to artificial. I'd rather hear the deep rumble and rev match down shift of ISF than artificial snap crackle and pop of this tune. Makes it sound like ricer to me. If the car did it on its own and subtle like some exotic supercars then that's one thing but to artificially induce this noise it just sounds fake and obviously over done. Every body is entitle to there own thing its there car so they can do what they like. Just my opinion, it he wants to do this popping sound tone it down.
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11-09-18, 11:38 AM
#9
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RR chimed in on the other thread and said it is not good for the engine long term. On that basis alone, we should all pass.
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05-14-19, 02:42 PM
#10
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Bringing this back from the dead.
I’m in Canada, albeit the other side of the country from MForce, but they are going to be remotely tuning my 2IS350 in the next week or two. Why you ask? Because I didn’t buy an ISF and I want to find a way to giggle like a schoolgirl every time I drive my car again. I love me some burble regardless of the stigma. I’m doing it because makes me happy.
They send me the cables and equipment, I provide a windows laptop, they control my screen via TeamViewer (or similar) and Bob’s your uncle. When done I sent them back their stuff. I’ve been in comms with them for a few weeks now and have uncovered some info that others may find useful.
MForce was started in China by a racing driver with a few real accolades. They have a single outfit in Toronto and as stated above apparently they can tune remotely. There are some concerns surrounding the efficacy and specifics of the tune, as well as long term safety of your beloved vehicles. I come bearing new info:
- The other thread contains a horror story about a tune trashing an ISF. I was able to independently confirm that tune is not from the same company and you won’t find a similar story surrounding MForce. I looked.
- The primary concern surrounding engine failure with these ‘burble’ tunes is the condition/existence of catalytic converters. They have been straight up with me the whole time. If you have primary cats and you roll around town at high rpm setting off car alarms all day you’re going to quickly burn out your cats and subsequently experience things like CEL, power loss, and and ultimately engine failure if your symptoms go unchecked for any period of time. In theory, this type of modification is much safer on a catless system but if you drive conservatively you should be fine.
- They price 2 options for you. One is a one-off tune, the other is a tune with 2 fine adjustments and a reflash should one ever be required.
- They first sent me pricing (Canadian Dollars) for the IS250 by accident, $700 for base tune, $900 for the full package. For the IS350, they quote $800 for base tune and $1100 for the full package. I’d expect the ISF to be similar to the 350.
- Stated gains for the 350 are 8-12% bhp and 7-10% torque. I haven’t seen a dyno. I also was able to independently confirm that rev limiter is increased to 7350rpm by messaging owners running this tune on Instagram.
- MForce takes into account any mods you have installed when tuning your vehicle, tailoring certain metrics to whether you have cats, exhaust mods, or other aftermarket components relative to the power/emissions systems.
- ‘Switch maps’ are not currently supported. If you tune your car with MForce you’re stuck until you reflash.
That being said, I plan to ask them to set the limiter to 7250rpm, and reduce the tendency for the really heavy overrun to get as long as I can out of it.
I know this isn’t necessarily ISF specific info, but I hope this may help someone someday.
I’m in Canada, albeit the other side of the country from MForce, but they are going to be remotely tuning my 2IS350 in the next week or two. Why you ask? Because I didn’t buy an ISF and I want to find a way to giggle like a schoolgirl every time I drive my car again. I love me some burble regardless of the stigma. I’m doing it because makes me happy.
They send me the cables and equipment, I provide a windows laptop, they control my screen via TeamViewer (or similar) and Bob’s your uncle. When done I sent them back their stuff. I’ve been in comms with them for a few weeks now and have uncovered some info that others may find useful.
MForce was started in China by a racing driver with a few real accolades. They have a single outfit in Toronto and as stated above apparently they can tune remotely. There are some concerns surrounding the efficacy and specifics of the tune, as well as long term safety of your beloved vehicles. I come bearing new info:
- The other thread contains a horror story about a tune trashing an ISF. I was able to independently confirm that tune is not from the same company and you won’t find a similar story surrounding MForce. I looked.
- The primary concern surrounding engine failure with these ‘burble’ tunes is the condition/existence of catalytic converters. They have been straight up with me the whole time. If you have primary cats and you roll around town at high rpm setting off car alarms all day you’re going to quickly burn out your cats and subsequently experience things like CEL, power loss, and and ultimately engine failure if your symptoms go unchecked for any period of time. In theory, this type of modification is much safer on a catless system but if you drive conservatively you should be fine.
- They price 2 options for you. One is a one-off tune, the other is a tune with 2 fine adjustments and a reflash should one ever be required.
- They first sent me pricing (Canadian Dollars) for the IS250 by accident, $700 for base tune, $900 for the full package. For the IS350, they quote $800 for base tune and $1100 for the full package. I’d expect the ISF to be similar to the 350.
- Stated gains for the 350 are 8-12% bhp and 7-10% torque. I haven’t seen a dyno. I also was able to independently confirm that rev limiter is increased to 7350rpm by messaging owners running this tune on Instagram.
- MForce takes into account any mods you have installed when tuning your vehicle, tailoring certain metrics to whether you have cats, exhaust mods, or other aftermarket components relative to the power/emissions systems.
- ‘Switch maps’ are not currently supported. If you tune your car with MForce you’re stuck until you reflash.
That being said, I plan to ask them to set the limiter to 7250rpm, and reduce the tendency for the really heavy overrun to get as long as I can out of it.
I know this isn’t necessarily ISF specific info, but I hope this may help someone someday.
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