Clean title but a total loss history? Both and

 

To the OP if this is correct above^^^^^^then I hope they disclosed to you that it was a salvaged ISF and a total loss and rebuilt with the wrong parts??..... If not like one of the members said above see if you have some sort of buyers protection and see if you can return the car? You don't know what else they took off like the Torsen diff possibly!

Hope not... and good luck

 

I really hope it's in one piece mostly. So far it's been a good car... coming from Mazda 6s. And 528 BMW.

Is there a physical or mechanical way of checking if it's not swapped? Without taking axels off and looking thro.

 

I think there are two previous cars in discussion here. The one where someone had two and was swapping parts to the newer one, and the one where there was a ISF on ebay that caught the attention of people because of its low bid price. Correct me if I am wrong but i believe you picked up the ebay dark gray car? Helo58 reposted the link to that ebay car in this thread (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-Lexus-I...vip=true&rt=nc)
Assuming it is the ebay car, it was marked as a total loss on the ebay auction if you read down its advertisement (hence rebuilt).
It would take you lots of time to see what is not right with your car, and there may be components that aren't ISF components that are from another lexus type that do the job and you may not notice or care. If it was me, i would try to get my cash back as paying almost 25K for a salvage isf is not a good deal. You could have found a non salvage one (granted a 2008 one) for that same price. And the fact that from the surface there was carelessness in putting it together (where its visible. lots of non Isf parts or missing parts), i would wonder how much it was rushed for those components that are not visible to the eye.
If you do keep the car, i would try to meet up with another non salvage isf 2010. Drive them one right after the other and see if there are obvious differences in how they drive, turn, shift, handle (suspension) etc. Off the bat you will notice the visual differences on the interior and outside badges that we notice.

Good luck.

 

I would say OP needs to get his money back. He definitely got screwed with that deal. EBay listing also say the all parts are stock which they clearly are not.

"...Everything is stock in this vehicle and nothing has been added on or tampered with. Everything has been fixed profesionally and the vehicle..."

Thats about 33000 Canadian, you can get 2010/2011 ISFs across the pond for around that much.

Looks like you have 30 days from the purchase to open a case for "not as described"
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html

 

As stated above , get your money back ASAP. Repairing with none oem parts etc plus who knows how the accident repairs were made. Red flag ����������

 

-The center console insert in your car is not from an ISF, it looks like maybe it is from an IS350/250. The ISF all came with Silver carbon fiber
-The center console in your car is missing the cover pieces inside the shifter pattern. Also missing the shifter interlock cover piece.
- The shifter pattern in your center console has "S" for sport shifting.. all ISF are marked as "M" for manual mode (another clue as to it not being for the ISF)
- The shift **** on the ISF should be chrome and black leather with blue stitching. yours appears to be aftermarket with carbon fiber
- The window switches on all 4 doors should be silver carbon fiber to match the center console.. yours are not.. This could explain why you are having power window problems.
To me, It seems like the previous owner that was involved in the collision removed all the ISF interior parts, and replaced them with cheap junkyard IS250/350 parts, prior to the insurance company writing the car off and sending it to auction. This could explain why the window switch isn't working.

You should open a dispute with ebay

 

I took it to my mechanic and he fixed up the hood alightment. What about the interior pieces I am talking to dealer seeing if he will reimburse the repair of somethings. To the condition described in ebay post.

also, the payments go through the bank transfer. How would eBay be able to affect it in anyway?

 

why would you go to a dealership to ask for parts discounts? Get your money back if your got it recently and find a isf that is not a rebuid. Your car seems as its was in a massive crash as it had wrong parts all over the inside and non functioning buttons on the wheel. Thats just the interior. If your got it for in it's current condition for 10k then ok but if your did pick it up for 25k you got robbed.

 

i dont know how big the damage outside was but the hood in original. With all the original vin numbers. They seems to include same headlight as it is on glue and glue fall off and they just covered it with the plastics. And the headlight isn't really damaged just mount is broken. So I think the accident was very minor.

 

Hmmm, ok. But somehow they needed to replace the steering wheel, the door panels have different inserts, the center console is from a IS_50. Check the outside, I believe the ISF badge is wrong meaning they had to remove it to paint it. Up to you if you want to keep it and spend money to bring it back to OEM quality. Those are just the visible easy to spot things. The non visible things are hidden, and its a bit disturbing that the visible things are rushed and not right. Yes it may drive amazing coming form a mazda and a 6 cylinder 5 series, to a v8, but try to drive a non rebuilt 2010 plus isf to get a feel for how they should feel. If you are happy, and want to keep it then good for you. Just saying if I was you, I would put 25K to a non crash rebuilt car. If you keep it, enjoy it.

 

The logical thing to do here is return the car and try to get your money back. This car was misrepresented because it was definitely not put together with ISF parts. You already mentioned that you are discovering more problems the more time you spend with it. So is it really worth keeping this thing and dumping more money into it? Think about when you have to resell it? You are going to have a hard time.

 

Did anyone else notice the car originally came with alpine white seats? At least according to the VIN decoder. It even says it has white seats at the bottom of the ebay ad.

 

Best thing to do is look into getting your money back. Not quite sure how it'll work since you did a bank transfer, but all the other criterias are met to have you cover for Buyers Protection.
1. Just spend the 5 mins and read over the entire policy
(http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html)

2. Call ebay's customer service line and see if they are willing to help, since the way of payment was the only thing that doesn't meet the criteria, if needed you should be able to provide proof of the bank transfer.

[eBay Phone Number
866-540-3229
CUSTOMER SERVICE
[b]13 mins average wait
Mon-Fri 5am-10pm, Sat-Sun 6am-6pm PST
Press # at the prompt, then 0, then 0, then 1
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3. Then, contact the seller. Reason with him for a refund for the reasons described by everyone, then open a dispute if he won't comply. Don't wait too long for his response, as he may try to delay the process pass 30 days.

***EBay suggest contacting the seller, and if they don't reply after 3 days, they (ebay) will step in. Even if the seller responds in the 3 days. You can still ask ebay to intervene.
(https://ocsnext.ebay.com/ocs/cusr?ref=1&query=1480&optionId=709354464&topicName=Item%20wasn%27t%20as%20described)

*****Another important note is you can always open a Not as described case with your banking institution, whether the transfer was done with a Credit Card, or a bank card. Consumers have lots of protection, whether they know it or not. Some banking institutions will step in, in a case like this. Just need to do your research (At least, that's how it is on this side on the border)

The vehicle was not worth it to be quite honest, I wont clutter your thread anymore than I have, just trying to give some advice, in the end it's your money.


I noticed that as well. From my experience, most SGM ISFs came with alpine seats.
There's a lot to look at, for not as described. OP, should take it to the dealer and have them list everything, thats visible as well as that Diff, hopefully it's the stock LSD.

 

So other than the interior parts being way off, I had front inspected. And over all there isn't any weird fixing there. Yes interior is of how it should be, but to be honest I don't see any isf being priced nearly as that. Hopefully it will come out as a clean title in California. And I hope to put it all behind me.