Talk me out of this guys...
#1
Talk me out of this guys...
I'm one of the biggest ISF fans you guys could meet. I've been a very active member of this forum since joining and have met most of the guys on the East Coast. I could be content keeping my ISF for many more years, and in fact may do that anyway, but my wife has put a "bug" in my ear and now I'm considering fulfilling an old childhood dream of mine to get a Porsche.
It's all her fault, really.
She likes the ISF almost as much as I do, but sort of out of the blue the other day she says "ever thought about selling/trading it in on a Porsche? You should do it." Well at first I scoffed at the idea... but after looking up some prices and considering the budget I am willing to spend, it really is attainable.
I'm looking almost exclusively at the 997.2 Carrera with Sports Chrono and PDK. Something in the 2010-2012 range. Part of the deal is that since the wife and I have our own daily drivers, me with the Tundra and her with the Highlander, we'd be looking for something that we'd sort of share as a fun 3rd car. So with that, it has to be an auto... but I'm cool with that. The 911 Turbo is out of reach, and though I could get a Carrera S with a little more mileage and a little older, the plain 'ole 911 with sports chrono is about the same straight line performance as an ISF (Car and Driver ran the 0-60 in 4.1 and quarter in 12.5 on the base 997.2 with PDK and sports chrono package). Throw in the handling and driver's feel, and I don't necessarily think I'll need any more than the base 911.
My ISF is a car that sees probably 6K miles a year now and the Porsche would be the same. So while I know reliability will never quite equal the ISF and maintenance is more, I don't think we're talking a crazy difference. I do not need full rear seats, so the 4 door factor isn't important either.
So tell me why this is a bad idea. Please.
It's all her fault, really.
She likes the ISF almost as much as I do, but sort of out of the blue the other day she says "ever thought about selling/trading it in on a Porsche? You should do it." Well at first I scoffed at the idea... but after looking up some prices and considering the budget I am willing to spend, it really is attainable.
I'm looking almost exclusively at the 997.2 Carrera with Sports Chrono and PDK. Something in the 2010-2012 range. Part of the deal is that since the wife and I have our own daily drivers, me with the Tundra and her with the Highlander, we'd be looking for something that we'd sort of share as a fun 3rd car. So with that, it has to be an auto... but I'm cool with that. The 911 Turbo is out of reach, and though I could get a Carrera S with a little more mileage and a little older, the plain 'ole 911 with sports chrono is about the same straight line performance as an ISF (Car and Driver ran the 0-60 in 4.1 and quarter in 12.5 on the base 997.2 with PDK and sports chrono package). Throw in the handling and driver's feel, and I don't necessarily think I'll need any more than the base 911.
My ISF is a car that sees probably 6K miles a year now and the Porsche would be the same. So while I know reliability will never quite equal the ISF and maintenance is more, I don't think we're talking a crazy difference. I do not need full rear seats, so the 4 door factor isn't important either.
So tell me why this is a bad idea. Please.
#2
I'm one of the biggest ISF fans you guys could meet. I've been a very active member of this forum since joining and have met most of the guys on the East Coast. I could be content keeping my ISF for many more years, and in fact may do that anyway, but my wife has put a "bug" in my ear and now I'm considering fulfilling an old childhood dream of mine to get a Porsche.
It's all her fault, really.
She likes the ISF almost as much as I do, but sort of out of the blue the other day she says "ever thought about selling/trading it in on a Porsche? You should do it." Well at first I scoffed at the idea... but after looking up some prices and considering the budget I am willing to spend, it really is attainable.
I'm looking almost exclusively at the 997.2 Carrera with Sports Chrono and PDK. Something in the 2010-2012 range. Part of the deal is that since the wife and I have our own daily drivers, me with the Tundra and her with the Highlander, we'd be looking for something that we'd sort of share as a fun 3rd car. So with that, it has to be an auto... but I'm cool with that. The 911 Turbo is out of reach, and though I could get a Carrera S with a little more mileage and a little older, the plain 'ole 911 with sports chrono is about the same straight line performance as an ISF (Car and Driver ran the 0-60 in 4.1 and quarter in 12.5 on the base 997.2 with PDK and sports chrono package). Throw in the handling and driver's feel, and I don't necessarily think I'll need any more than the base 911.
My ISF is a car that sees probably 6K miles a year now and the Porsche would be the same. So while I know reliability will never quite equal the ISF and maintenance is more, I don't think we're talking a crazy difference. I do not need full rear seats, so the 4 door factor isn't important either.
So tell me why this is a bad idea. Please.
It's all her fault, really.
She likes the ISF almost as much as I do, but sort of out of the blue the other day she says "ever thought about selling/trading it in on a Porsche? You should do it." Well at first I scoffed at the idea... but after looking up some prices and considering the budget I am willing to spend, it really is attainable.
I'm looking almost exclusively at the 997.2 Carrera with Sports Chrono and PDK. Something in the 2010-2012 range. Part of the deal is that since the wife and I have our own daily drivers, me with the Tundra and her with the Highlander, we'd be looking for something that we'd sort of share as a fun 3rd car. So with that, it has to be an auto... but I'm cool with that. The 911 Turbo is out of reach, and though I could get a Carrera S with a little more mileage and a little older, the plain 'ole 911 with sports chrono is about the same straight line performance as an ISF (Car and Driver ran the 0-60 in 4.1 and quarter in 12.5 on the base 997.2 with PDK and sports chrono package). Throw in the handling and driver's feel, and I don't necessarily think I'll need any more than the base 911.
My ISF is a car that sees probably 6K miles a year now and the Porsche would be the same. So while I know reliability will never quite equal the ISF and maintenance is more, I don't think we're talking a crazy difference. I do not need full rear seats, so the 4 door factor isn't important either.
So tell me why this is a bad idea. Please.
I looked at the new C63 S the other day and was completely impressed by the car. It was on a whole new level. I will probably be getting one in the next 6-8 months. I love my 2013 Porsche Cayenne turbo.. I am a Porsche fan. If I were you I would consider the trade especially since carrera hold value very well.
#3
How is it better exactly? Better at what?
As for the OP, it's not really a matter of a better car. It is just a different car altogether.
As with all cars, I recommend you test drive it and research it out so you know what you're getting into.
As for the OP, it's not really a matter of a better car. It is just a different car altogether.
As with all cars, I recommend you test drive it and research it out so you know what you're getting into.
#4
Lexus Test Driver
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Famous last words.
In all seriousness, it sounds like a good move if you find the right Porsche for you at a good price. If I could swing the finances for a late model Turbo S, I'd jump ship in a heartbeat!
-Mike
#5
In my opinion you also you don't have to deal with:
-Radiators blowing up
-Leaking water pumps
-Faulty nav screens
-Radiator fans breaking
-Unknowlegeable Lexus service advisors
Maybe I just am fed up. But hey it's a personal opinion.
#7
If your ISF is your "fun" weekend car, then I would absolutely get a Porsche. Don't get me wrong, I love my ISF but I definitely don't consider it a fun weekend car (flame suit on). There are many other cars that enhance the overall driving experience much, much more than an ISF (Porsche being one of them). Please note that I do not currently own a Porsche but I have driven a couple.
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#8
Take a mortgage out on your house. Buy a 991 Turbo S and keep the ISF.
In all seriousness, buy the Porsche, you won't regret it. The P-car is a PERFECT toy car!
In all seriousness, buy the Porsche, you won't regret it. The P-car is a PERFECT toy car!
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#9
It's not a bad idea. Just to have a wife who is interested in performance cars makes this a win.
My buddy has a 997.2 and had a cracked cylinder and HPFP that needed replacing (and that was within the first 10k miles), but he still loves it. The PDK is definitely on par in terms of shifting as with the IS F. It's a very attractive car, loads of fun, and while reliability isn't on par, Porsche owners do enjoy the car and drive them pretty darn hard. That is to say the car won't be trouble-free, just like with any car, but it all depends on your threshold of pain when it comes to whipping out the wallet to fix items or even deal with maintenance work.
The car note would be somewhat of a pain for me. Not in terms of cost, but just to have another expense. I already told mine that, while I won't sell the F, I do want a fun coupe to play with. But having paid off the car for almost seven years, I am a bit complacent with not having any debt for the time being. I do get what you're saying about being on the fence about getting a different car. As a sport sedan, there aren't too many options that can trump what the IS F offers. But if you do want something more engaging and more of a driver's car, then without hesitation you have to go for it....for the wife and your dream realized.
Best of luck!
My buddy has a 997.2 and had a cracked cylinder and HPFP that needed replacing (and that was within the first 10k miles), but he still loves it. The PDK is definitely on par in terms of shifting as with the IS F. It's a very attractive car, loads of fun, and while reliability isn't on par, Porsche owners do enjoy the car and drive them pretty darn hard. That is to say the car won't be trouble-free, just like with any car, but it all depends on your threshold of pain when it comes to whipping out the wallet to fix items or even deal with maintenance work.
The car note would be somewhat of a pain for me. Not in terms of cost, but just to have another expense. I already told mine that, while I won't sell the F, I do want a fun coupe to play with. But having paid off the car for almost seven years, I am a bit complacent with not having any debt for the time being. I do get what you're saying about being on the fence about getting a different car. As a sport sedan, there aren't too many options that can trump what the IS F offers. But if you do want something more engaging and more of a driver's car, then without hesitation you have to go for it....for the wife and your dream realized.
Best of luck!
#10
My buddy has a 997.2 and had a cracked cylinder and HPFP that needed replacing (and that was within the first 10k miles), but he still loves it. The PDK is definitely on par in terms of shifting as with the IS F. It's a very attractive car, loads of fun, and while reliability isn't on par, Porsche owners do enjoy the car and drive them pretty darn hard. That is to say the car won't be trouble-free, just like with any car, but it all depends on your threshold of pain when it comes to whipping out the wallet to fix items or even deal with maintenance work.
The car note would be somewhat of a pain for me. Not in terms of cost, but just to have another expense. I already told mine that, while I won't sell the F, I do want a fun coupe to play with. But having paid off the car for almost seven years, I am a bit complacent with not having any debt for the time being. I do get what you're saying about being on the fence about getting a different car. As a sport sedan, there aren't too many options that can trump what the IS F offers. But if you do want something more engaging and more of a driver's car, then without hesitation you have to go for it....for the wife and your dream realized.
Best of luck!
Either lease it or be prepared to ditch it when the warranty is over.
#15
Lexus Fanatic
Its a great step up. I will admit I have been on the track with the exact car you are mentioning and I could easiliy hang. His corner exit was better but I could gain on him on the straights.
Your wife sounds like mine. LOL She still trying to push me to get a GTR. LOL She was telling yesterday to order new wheels for my car also for my bday. Im the one holding back. We are lucky
Your wife sounds like mine. LOL She still trying to push me to get a GTR. LOL She was telling yesterday to order new wheels for my car also for my bday. Im the one holding back. We are lucky
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