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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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So i have my car at the Lexus dealership in Utah and i have a cracked Manifold. Dont know how it happened But oh well.

I want to get New aftermarket headers PPE or Sikky, But lexus is saying the enitre motor has to be pulled to repalce the headers?. I dont think this is true but wanted to ask you all.

Also does anyone know a good place to get headers installed In Utah and or Las Vegas/So Cal and maybe PHX. I want someone who has done them before on the ISF

Let me know what you guys would do?
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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IT has nothing to do with pulling the motor, just relocate the dipstick and drop subframe a bit to install header, and steering shaft. Come to socal , one of our good friends installed 3 headers already
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:10 PM
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SO WTF... Why is lexus telling me the whole motor needs to be pulled.
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:12 PM
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They trying to pulled your legs , and charged u a bunch of $$$ . Installed from bottom up.
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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The whole engine does not need to be pulled. Also when removing/replacing headers no alignment is needed because the mechanic doesnt need to remove anything to affect the alignment
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Well I know PPE is in Tempe. I have Family in Cave Creek. Guess i will be going to AZ soon
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by amgone75
The whole engine does not need to be pulled. Also when removing/replacing headers no alignment is needed because the mechanic doesnt need to remove anything to affect the alignment
I needed a bigtime re-alignment after header installation..
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My friend has done 3 so far. Didnt have to remove anything alignment related and all 3 Fs have no issues.
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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That would be me, amgone75 and rxrage I think the reason you need aligment because the installers dropped the subframe too much and taken about those front wheels. We didnt take out the front wheels , dropped the subframe a bit but supported with a lift for that sub frame with a piece of wood in between it.
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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If you loosen the subframe you'll need an alignment.

There are reasons why Lexus installs things certain ways. The fastest way is what Kody stated, but you'll need a thorough alignment afterwards.

Last edited by K3RRYB; Aug 10, 2012 at 02:08 PM.
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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Not really , if the installers used white marker to marked lines prior loosen the frame, and used crank or lifter to support sub frame, unsupported the frame or loosen out complete might be a result of alignment ? also applied for the steering shaft as well . Installed correctly , U dont need any alignment . All 3 of us didnt need any alignment to shown a very good mechanic very hard to find
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 03:00 PM
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I'm sure the dealership goes by their blanket manual that has certain protocols for certain things. I'd also suspect they do not do a ton of these. I don't think they are trying to hose honestly, they just may not be aware of the short cuts as some of the others have done. Do you have it at LH Miller or Lindon?

Personally, I'd make the trip to AZ and have the company install their product. Good luck, and we need to meet sometime. I have a friend that just purchased a SFP around here as well. ;-)
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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If you get the Sikky headers, do to Kody's friend. If you get the PPE headers, drive to AZ.
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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Cracked manifold????
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Yep, no alignment needed for me.
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