"Mobil Super" is regular Conventional Engine Oil

"Mobil Super Synthetic" is another Synthetic oil offered by Mobil

"Mobil One Synthetic" is their Advanced Full Synthetic oil

For more on Mobil products, be sure to read up:

Mobil USA

and here

Mobil One Oils


~ Joe Z

 

Ahh i see. Thanks for the info!

 

Mobil 1 is their long-tested synthetic. It has a different additive pack than Mobil Super 3000/5000/7500 (Do they still make 3K and 7.5K??) which are not synthetic.
Mobil1 is a different oil. Mobil makes several synthetics, but they are different. Kinda like Pennzoil Platinum vs Pennzoil Ultra. Both are synthetic, made by the same company, but they are different oils.

Mobil has confused the issue by saying "Mobil 1 Super-Syn" but this is not the same product as "Mobil Super Synthetic."

 

^^ Agreed... Thanks for the clarification...

Found this on their site:

• What’s the difference between Mobil 1 and Mobil Super Synthetic?

Mobil 1 is part of our ultimate line of advanced full synthetics. It uses the latest in additive and base oil technologies that provide superior protection, and outperforms Mobil Super Synthetic. It meets both GM’s stringent dexos1™* and Europe’s ACEA performance standards. More car builders recommend Mobil 1 by name than any other motor oil brand in the world. More NASCAR® drivers use Mobil 1 than any other motor oil brands. Mobil 1 has provided exceptional performance throughout its nearly 40-year history and stands alone as The World’s Leading Synthetic Motor Oil Brand.

Our Product Comparison Chart shows how these products differ.



Joe Z

 

0w-30 mobil one synthetic. they dont have super at my walmart..

 

What is everyone's thoughts on this 0w-30 mobil 1 oil? They claim better fuel mileage but is it safe to use in a motor when the manufacturer recommends 5w-30?

 

Yes, it is safe. The SAE grades are difficult to understand some times, but a 0w-30 is the same viscosity as a 5w-30 at operating temperature. Really, there is no reason to use 10w-30 or 15w-xx any more when 5w-xx and 0w-xx are widely available. 10w-xx is thicker when cold and doesn't get you anything. All that the 0w vs 5w is telling you, is that it's not as thick when cold. there is no real reason why your engine needs thicker oil when it's cold. In that way, all oils are too thick when cold (assuming you're not trying to correct a problem with it by using heavy oils on start up, which is rare). You'll have no problems using 0w-xx in anything. The reason Mobil claims their "AFE" (advance fuel economy) oils get better mileage is because they are ever so slightly thinner, thinner oils give you less friction and oil pumping loss, thus better fuel economy. This is part of the CAFE standards for auto companies and part of the reason (or all of the reason?) they are switching newer cars to thinner and thinner oils. I think this is a pretty small gain just a few percent, but if you can get the better oil for the same price, go for it.

This topic is probably going to come up next, so I'll tackle it here and preempt the oil trolls. Yes, the 0w-30 does have a higher chance of sheering to a 0w-20, or losing viscocity due to fuel dilution, but that isn't really a problem. Toyota back-speced almost all of their engines to 20 grade oil a few years ago. At any rate, many Toyota engines are running around out there with slightly sheered/diluted oil. It happens all the time. I don't see those engines blowing up left and right. Please keep in mind that if you run around the track with your IS-F at a billion RPM, it's probably not wise to have an oil that's thin, but for every day driving, it doesn't hurt.

 

I am a long time Royal Purple user. It is time to change oil again.
I have been using the Royal Purple (API) 5w-30 oil for years.
They recently came out with the ultra high performance version called HPS.

Anyone with any experience with HPS?

- please no Royal Purple haters ...... appreciated

 

About the video... what they did there is a pet peeve of mine...

That machine in the Royal Purple video has been retired by everyone in the industry, including the certification bodies such as the API and ILSAC. While the companies still using that test can make good oil, that test is meaningless for motor oil. Those conditions do not exist in a engine and that test will not tell you if an oil has good lubricating properties, acid neutralization, corrosion resistance, lubrication degradation, fuel dilution, catalytic converter comparability, fuel efficiency, NOACK volatility, flash point, and about 50 other things that an engine oil has to do. That machine is considered the one-armed-bandit of the lubrication world. Now gear oil... that would be another story. Extreme Pressure (EP) additives are required in gear oil and that test would tell you a bit about EP additives.

 

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=2581168

0w30 vs 5w30

 

i use amsoil 5w-30. used it in all my cars

 

Anyone with any experience with Royal Purple HPS?

 

i use Mobil 1 Synthetic in all my cars. the oil cap say 5w-30 so that is what i put in.

 

I use Royal Purple 5W-30 with a K&N oil filter

 

Me too exactly the same combo. Upgrading to Royal Purple HPS 5w-30 with K&N filter
tomorrow.