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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Juxtapoz
Make....Model....MSRP....Weight....HP....TRQ....0-60
Lexus....ISF:....$57,435....3,527....416....371....4.6s
Benz....C63:....$57,175....3,649....451....443....4.3s
BMW....M3:....$58,675....3,726....414....295....4.7s
Audi....S5:....$52,225....4,067....354....325....4.9s

^So, just by the looks of this. Is the C63 the best Super Saloon out there? I mean, you're really getting your money's worth compared to the other cars.

For the same price as the ISF, you get 35 more HP and 72 lbs of more Torque!

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the weight for ISF is off by at least 200 lbs. the weight for M3 is wrong also. dont know about the Benz, but i don't really care for it either.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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I don't understand how the weight for the cars i wrote are wrong. I got the numbers from the actual website, so how is it still inaccurate? These companies won't lie to their potential customers, will they? I don't think so. So, how are the numbers I posted wrong?

Also, if the S5 is in the wrong category of these cars, then which Audi car would fit in the picture?

The times i wrote from the 0-60, are from the website also.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SebringAG
Sorry, how old are you? Sure, it's a free society and everything, but if you're openly admitting to having the intention of doing something that takes thousands of innocent lives every year, I think you have a serious problem. You don't deserve any of the cars you're considering buying.

And also bear in mind that when you have a car like this (the IS-F, C63, RS4, M3, etc.), there's no need to prove anything to the "punk who thinks he has a faster car". There are very few cars in stock form that are faster than these, so basically there's nothing to prove.
i could not have said it better.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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too many cars on the highways man
school zone racing is where it's at!
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 8speed
Fail for listing the S5 in this class and fail for the 0-60 numbers. Fastest posted for the C63 is 4.1 seconds and 4.2 for the M3 and IS-F. Fail for judging the value of a car based on such numbers. Fail for street racing!

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If memory serves, C&D posted a 0-60 time for the C63 of 3.9 seconds...not that it really matters.

And to the OP, there is no Audi currently in production that competes directly with the IS-F, C63, and M3 sedan (saloon). The nearest one would have been the RS4, which is no longer in production.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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i didnt realize the c63 was lighter then the isf... kinda crazy... although the prices are misleading.. isf fully loaded is better value
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cabinetman
I agree. I usually see the curb weight at close to 3800 lbs. I wish the OP's number was correct!

......and then some.......

She's a porker for sure, but not bad for the weight.

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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 8speed
Fail for listing the S5 in this class and fail for the 0-60 numbers. Fastest posted for the C63 is 4.1 seconds and 4.2 for the M3 and IS-F. Fail for judging the value of a car based on such numbers. Fail for street racing!

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This whole thread says FAIL.

There are enough threads where this has been discussed at length.

First of all, who buys a base model in these vehicles? Let's talk about fully loaded or comparably optioned and the "value" that you talk about isn't close.

Second of all, get some actual seat time in these cars and decide what's best for yourself. Most of us owners actually looked at all of the cars mentioned and made our decisions. Each has it's strengths and weaknesses.

Most of us will agree that they are all great cars and we're lucky to own them. Who gives a rat's azz what somebody else thinks is the "best" car?
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Sounds like the OP just wants straight line fast, to smoke the ricers. Also sounds foolish, like "king of the ricers"- glad i live on the opposite coast! I say get the Benz- it is wicked fast, and i will never have to acknowledge one more idiot street racer driving an F!
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 01:27 AM
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Anyone shopping for cars using manufacturer's numbers is sad. If you want to beat the ricers, go get a GTR. It will kill them all. Why waste your time and money with four doors?

Street racing? Dumb. Sounds like a Darwin Award contestant in good standing.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by scorpio74
saloon
n. bar, pub, tavern; lounge, reception room; sedan, two- or four-door automobile with a closed roof; dining or sleeping car of a train (British)
Smartass.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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M3 - best com. of ride tech, fast handling / no thrust like the f and c 63

C63 - FAST IN STRAIGHT LINE GREAT EXHAUST NOTE -CANT TAKE A TURN

IS-F - WELL ROUNDED FAST GOOD HANDILING GOOD RIDE




M3 THE BEST
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Lexus beats all ...in reliability.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Best all-rounder is actually the RS4, if you ask me. It's the all-season super sedan, does everything well, and is more rare than M3s, C63s, and probably IS-Fs.
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