Why on earth not? You're talking about two cars meant for entirely different purposes that have significantly different feature sets.

 

I guess... The Lexus is a 4 seater and the vette has 2. They are both hotrods and are faster than their competition. I just don't think the pricing is inline with the Lexus philosophy of undercutting the competition's price. This car will be a winner in my opinion, but just not for me at the suggested price of 60K base.

 

I agree. The GS460 isn't on my cross shopping list because I just don't like the new GS but the LS is as is the Vette and GTR. Way different cars? Sure... but they all appeal to me in different ways and, as mentioned, the prices aren't that far off.

Maybe I'm weird, yeah... yeah...., but I doubt I'm unique.

 

First off, that's a pretty extreme blanket statement about Lexus' sales goals for the IS-F, especially considering that in Japan the IS-F MSRP was the equivalent of US$66,000 and Lexus has already closed the waiting list because demand was a magnitude of 10 over Lexus' initial sales targets. What information do you have to suggest that the sales goals will not be met in the US at a hypothetical, lower price point of $60k, or even what the sales goals actually will be?

Well, I'm not really sure what you're trying to argue here, because my point is precisely that the "whole story" includes other factors such as the purpose of the vehicle. Of course price is a factor, no one suggested otherwise. But just because two vehicles have a similar price doesn't mean that buyers will consider both vehicles. I've never considered the Corvette in my current IS-F consideration and I never will. They're totally different cars that aim to achieve different goals.

Your bet is wrong, since I have not. And I think you're really grasping for straws when suggesting that buyers are going to consider the LS460 when they are buying an IS-F. That's like saying M3 buyers consider the 7-series, C-class AMG buyers consider the S-class, and RS4 buyers consider the Audi tanks. Maybe some do, but current ownership demographics don't support you there.

 

I put down my deposit when I was hoping for 435+ hp. Then, I was hoping for the usual Lexus pricing of about 10K under the German competition. When speculation on pricing was released I pulled my deposit.

I agree with IS-FAN "Attention Lexus: Overpricing this car is a big mistake!" I voiced this opinion by pulling my deposit. If Lexus prices this car the way they do all their other models then I will be back in line to get one.

 

It is not about being "right" or "wrong", it is about whether or not you are being reasonable in what you say. When you say that IS-F cannot meet sales targets at a certain price but the IS-F is exceeding sales targets by 10x in Japan at a higher price, I will not think you are being reasonable. It does not mean you are "right" or "wrong" now or in the future, but whether your statement is within reason is certainly debatable.

I have no problem with you posting here to explain why you withdrew your deposit, but I will consider commenting on any thoughts that I feel may be unreasonable. It's as simple as that.

Last time I checked I was #27 at Lexus of Las Vegas. Depending on the initial shipment (dealer says 12, but it could be more) I may bump back my preorder because I don't plan on purchasing until July/August. I answered many of the other questions already in the poll thread on this forum. I feel a 60k base price is reasonable.

 

I think 5k below the competition would be pretty good. I just found out that the IS350 vs. the 335i Coupe is about 5k difference..335i Sedan is probably around 4k difference...(this is base price msrp from the car sites)

 

Only time will tell what the MSRP for the IS-F will be and how many they will sell at that price... If they sell a lot of IS-F's, it will just give Lexus more incentive to bring to market a GS-F and RX-F.