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Old Jul 26, 2023 | 02:21 PM
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The used oil analyses weren't done in my backyard, they were done by a company that specializes in that work. They provide actual, objective evidence, not anecdotal evidence or opinion. Whether an oil is good or not should not be a matter of opinion. It can be tested. I am not suggesting that Amsoil isn't a good oil. It is. What I'm saying is that for 95% or more of users, there is no objective difference between any of the various good oils because they're not doing anything that actually pushes the oil to it's limit or beyond. Hell, this is an engine that is naturally aspirated and making less than 100 HP per liter. It's not some high strung turbo that is hard on oil.
Well, it seems as though the 5% includes some of us ClubLexus members.


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Old Jul 26, 2023 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by arentz07
Well, it seems as though the 5% includes some of us ClubLexus members.


https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...l#post11548484
I don't read that analysis as suggesting there was anything wrong with the oil he was running or that this car needs special oil.
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Old Jul 26, 2023 | 02:36 PM
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I don't read that analysis as suggesting there was anything wrong with the oil he was running or that this car needs special oil.
The oil had thinned out beyond what is "normal" for 5W-30. To me that suggests it definitely needed to be changed in spite of only seeing 2,400 miles. Granted, an autocross on a hot day probably means the oil was being worked pretty hard.

This makes me think, since I've been on a couple mountain runs, that maybe taking mine in a little early (since I am still on the dealership's oil) would be a good idea.
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Old Jul 26, 2023 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by arentz07
The oil had thinned out beyond what is "normal" for 5W-30. To me that suggests it definitely needed to be changed in spite of only seeing 2,400 miles. Granted, an autocross on a hot day probably means the oil was being worked pretty hard.

This makes me think, since I've been on a couple mountain runs, that maybe taking mine in a little early (since I am still on the dealership's oil) would be a good idea.
Blackstone evidently disagree given their comments. I didn't see any mention of what oil it was either.
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Old Jul 26, 2023 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AmbyBomb
Blackstone evidently disagree given their comments. I didn't see any mention of what oil it was either.
They said the viscosity was low for 5W-30.
Also OP mentioned they might switch to a full synthetic, which implies they're on a blend or the oil used at the dealership.
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Old Jul 26, 2023 | 02:49 PM
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True, but they don't flag it as a concern that requires attention, or that rationalizes running a particular brand of oil. We don't know what oil was in there.
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Old Aug 9, 2023 | 11:26 AM
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Hey man, beautiful car, can’t wait to get mine next year! Just my two cents though, I would recommend that if you’re providing your own oil or doing your own oil changes, I might suggest considering Amsoil Signiture Series as well. It’s essentially the best oil you can get, by a long shot. I also have experience using this oil in my past older muscle cars as well. Check it out when you have time. You can check out the tests they did on bestsynthetic.com and see how it compares to the other top oils.
Amsoil makes great oils but I would not recommend to anyone to use the Signature Series. It is one of their oils that is not API certified. This alone can be reason enough to void the warranty. And as far as the MM act, well it's a long drawn out and costly headache. It's getting harder and harder for the little guy (consumer) to win any battles. Just use the OE Amsoil if you want to use the brand, as I believe it's API certified (SN+, I believe but am unsure). This is just my opinion of course.
Now, if your car is out of warranty or you don't care about/worry about it, go for it as the Signature Series is a great oil IMO.

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So I decided to just get my oil changed at the dealer while I was there getting a new key since it'd be free.

I thought only the first two services were free, but I guess technically I did the 5,000-mile service twice. It was free both times!

Anyway, I noticed this "QTY: 7.0" for the oil change supplies entry. It looks like the right kind of oil, and the dipstick has oil going up slightly above the top fill dot. Can anyone explain what "7.0" means here? I would have thought 7 1-quart bottles, but that doesn't make sense if it is filled to maximum.


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Originally Posted by arentz07
So I decided to just get my oil changed at the dealer while I was there getting a new key since it'd be free.

I thought only the first two services were free, but I guess technically I did the 5,000-mile service twice. It was free both times!

Anyway, I noticed this "QTY: 7.0" for the oil change supplies entry. It looks like the right kind of oil, and the dipstick has oil going up slightly above the top fill dot. Can anyone explain what "7.0" means here? I would have thought 7 1-quart bottles, but that doesn't make sense if it is filled to maximum.

It might just have to do with billing?
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Originally Posted by arentz07
So I decided to just get my oil changed at the dealer while I was there getting a new key since it'd be free.

I thought only the first two services were free, but I guess technically I did the 5,000-mile service twice. It was free both times!

Anyway, I noticed this "QTY: 7.0" for the oil change supplies entry. It looks like the right kind of oil, and the dipstick has oil going up slightly above the top fill dot. Can anyone explain what "7.0" means here? I would have thought 7 1-quart bottles, but that doesn't make sense if it is filled to maximum.

At our dealer, we bill It out in quarts. It'll either be in quarts or liters. 9.1 qt or 8.6lt
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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 09:05 AM
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Sometimes though, a dealership will only allow up to so many quarts to be "free'. I've seen dealers mark 5 for quanity when the vehicle takes ten. It's because they owe a complementary oil change so they bill it that way as to not charge for extra quarts over the first 5 or have to zero things out at the cashier.
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At our dealer, we bill It out in quarts. It'll either be in quarts or liters. 9.1 qt or 8.6lt
Yeah, maybe they just put 7.0 in there by mistake, as the oil level looked the same as it was when new. Oil was very light in color, almost transparent, and went up a little above the top fill dot on the dip stick.
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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pittsy
I know this is completely unrelated, but why is this?

I mean, why does the 2UR call for conventional motor oil instead of synthetic? One of the team leaders at the dealer I work at mentioned it to me, and I knew of what he was talking about, but I'm curious as to why...

This probably deserves its own thread...
Why do you say it calls for conventional oil? The owners manual calls for:


Just says to use Toyota oil or equivalent. I have used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum first in my ISF and then my LC for the past 24 years Just to add more to the equation, I use 10W30 because I live in a hot climate with no winter to speak of.


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Why do you say it calls for conventional oil? The owners manual calls for:


Just says to use Toyota oil or equivalent. I have used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum first in my ISF and then my LC for the past 24 years Just to add more to the equation, I use 10W30 because I live in a hot climate with no winter to speak of.
Im right there with you here in Phoenix. The Lexus/toyota genuine oil is conventional, not synthetic.
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^^^^Yes, you are correct, but so what❓ Again is says or equivalent and then specifies:

ILSAC GF-6A multigrade engine oil
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That oil standard is met by all good oils currently on the market, both Dino and Synthetic.


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