Is it really better than the standard IS500 system?.

 

You have any evidence to support any of your claims? Have you ever been in an accident and the insurance companies realized your car had this installed? How do you know what’s sent to the ecu or not?

 

based on the experience with my GS F, way better. you can see what the comma device sees, marking and tracking cars in front and all lanes lines, curbs and shoulder live on its lcd screen. it has 2 front facing cameras, a wide angle and a long distance camera that it will use to look for cars, curbs and lane markers. it will slow down when going into corners and accelerate back up to your set speed when going out of corners. also does lane changes automatically when you activate the turn signal.


for highway driving, you can pretty much be completely hands free. the driver facing camera tracks the drivers eye and face, and will warn you, then disengage if you take your eyes off the road for too long. will also immediately disengage when seatbelt is taken off.

 

Would love to see a video posted up. Ours does all this anyway right?.

it will slow down when going into corners and accelerate back up to your set speed when going out of corners. also does lane changes automatically when you activate the turn signal.

 

Sounds pretty much the same with just not needing to hold the wheel. I did like the screen shots where it showed what it was seeing.

 

Just realized, the IS 500 owners have the latest gen Lexus tech. My GS F is a 2016 model year(the very first implementation of LKAS), and the factory stock LKAS pretty much did nothing, so for me the difference was night and day.

 

Agreed, if you were coming from then, it would be well worth the money if you wanted it.

It does seem better overall but for the cost and the wiring etc, probably only to a dedicated few.

 

Do you have any evidence or data to prove him wrong?

 

looks pretty good to me.

 

Except for the guy driving without his hands on the wheel for long periods of time.

This is new tech so there's probably not many cases out there that have dealt with insurance coverage when a system like this is installed. I would not want to be the test case though.

 

Tesla has been doing it for like what 5 years now? Exact same thing. If you’re using a Tesla on autopilot and it crashes, YOURE AT FAULT. If you crash while using open pilot, YOURE AT FAULT. What’s so hard about this? A crash is a crash. How would your insurance even know if you had this thing? They wouldn’t unless you spouted off “yeah I was using my ADAS system hands free for a long period of time and it crashed the car for me”. If you just pony up and own it, like you legally have to, no problem.

 

So don't disclose that you were using a third party autopilot system when the crash happened?

Insurance companies aren't going to be keen to just accept liability as you have suggested. They're going to look for viable reasons for them to refuse coverage if there is a concern that the system contributed at all.

 

lets say you crash while using open pilot. What’s the cause? It’s always the driver wasn’t paying attention. And yeah, why incriminate yourself? There, to my knowledge, isn’t even a crime being committed.

 

It may not be a crime, but that potentially gives grounds for an insurance company to deny coverage on the basis of non-disclosure. If there's nothing to hide, why hide it?

I think this is more nuanced than you're suggesting.

 

I really don’t think it’s a big deal at all, If you as the driver are paying attention. And to be clear, I’m not saying hide this thing. But maybe don’t go out of your way to say that some 3rd party device you installed might’ve had a factor in your accident. Also, it’s still the drivers fault. Just as it’s the drivers fault if oem cruise control crashes the car.