Separate or sub section for 200t?
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Separate or sub section for 200t?
Is it possible to have a separate or sub slot for IS200t? I think it would make it easier to locate specific topics for that platform ie performance builds etc.
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All the "performance" builds for that model have already been hashed to death (2-3 years ago) in the Performance sub-forum. There's not really anything new in the past couple years. The turbo performance maxes out fast and underwhelmingly. not much to see.
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so true, haven't seen many new things on performance for the 200t since sheddy & folks have moved on to other platforms.
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all of this is true just looking to make it easier in the future IF things change. Plus components are different on the turbo than the others. If they separated the RC F why not the 200t?
I'd even push for a 200t sub-forum to cover all vehicles with the engine. I have a GS200t and spent a lot of time in the IS forums for tuning but looked in the NX forums for info on water injection and RC forum for spark plug info. I use Google to search the forums anyways so it's easier to find those specific posts.
Of all of the engines, the 200t has the most potential for easy modding when compared to its NA cousins and it would be nice to see more discussion on water injection, turbo/chra swaps and remote tuning to bring it all together. I haven't found much on those items which can make a big impact on performance. I'll definitely post my write-up on water injection once it's done but it will likely end up in the GS forum I guess where no one will probably care.
Of all of the engines, the 200t has the most potential for easy modding when compared to its NA cousins and it would be nice to see more discussion on water injection, turbo/chra swaps and remote tuning to bring it all together. I haven't found much on those items which can make a big impact on performance. I'll definitely post my write-up on water injection once it's done but it will likely end up in the GS forum I guess where no one will probably care.
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^as said, all that's been exhausted (no pun intended) already a few years ago. That's why people have moved on. Everything that can be reasonably tried has been tried already. A fully maxed out full bolt on fully tuned IS turbo was getting stripped by a stock BMW 328i, and quite handily so. All while being obnoxiously loud, polluty, and illegal. Probably due to the bottlenecks of the 8AR platform which is the turbo, the intercooler, the transmission, lubrication system, and overall cooling. It's just not suitable for hot rodding, and understandably so.
Personally I'd recommend driving the car and enjoying as is =) It's classy, quiet, and quick enough right out of the box. And the best part is keep your warranty and no headaches. =) There's no better feeling in enthusiast car ownership than getting into your car every morning and not worrying about it breaking or having to jerk it off on the weekend to fix something that broke.
all the salaried engineers did all the hard work for you. all you have to do is enjoy!
Personally I'd recommend driving the car and enjoying as is =) It's classy, quiet, and quick enough right out of the box. And the best part is keep your warranty and no headaches. =) There's no better feeling in enthusiast car ownership than getting into your car every morning and not worrying about it breaking or having to jerk it off on the weekend to fix something that broke.
all the salaried engineers did all the hard work for you. all you have to do is enjoy!
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^as said, all that's been exhausted (no pun intended) already a few years ago. That's why people have moved on. Everything that can be reasonably tried has been tried already. A fully maxed out full bolt on fully tuned IS turbo was getting stripped by a stock BMW 328i, and quite handily so. All while being obnoxiously loud, polluty, and illegal. Probably due to the bottlenecks of the 8AR platform which is the turbo, the intercooler, the transmission, lubrication system, and overall cooling. It's just not suitable for hot rodding, and understandably so.
Personally I'd recommend driving the car and enjoying as is =) It's classy, quiet, and quick enough right out of the box. And the best part is keep your warranty and no headaches. =) There's no better feeling in enthusiast car ownership than getting into your car every morning and not worrying about it breaking or having to jerk it off on the weekend to fix something that broke.
all the salaried engineers did all the hard work for you. all you have to do is enjoy!
Personally I'd recommend driving the car and enjoying as is =) It's classy, quiet, and quick enough right out of the box. And the best part is keep your warranty and no headaches. =) There's no better feeling in enthusiast car ownership than getting into your car every morning and not worrying about it breaking or having to jerk it off on the weekend to fix something that broke.
all the salaried engineers did all the hard work for you. all you have to do is enjoy!
They wouldn’t have to read through a build per say and find out that company x mid pipe is only for v6. I’m quite sure all has been exhausted but RR is still working on their ECU tune and when that happens it should get lost in the shuffle.
It would really just be for ease of navigation. Like I said RC F has it why not XX200t.
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I think that's because you are thinking of the IS-turbo as its own "performance" car when it's really just a standard car. The RC-F has its own sub-section because it's a real F car and thus its own category of vehicle.
I have a CT200h F Sport (now) and yeah it would be nice to have my own sub-forum for my model, but that would just serve as to clutter things. Ask the mods and see what they say.
I have a CT200h F Sport (now) and yeah it would be nice to have my own sub-forum for my model, but that would just serve as to clutter things. Ask the mods and see what they say.
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^as said, all that's been exhausted (no pun intended) already a few years ago. That's why people have moved on. Everything that can be reasonably tried has been tried already. A fully maxed out full bolt on fully tuned IS turbo was getting stripped by a stock BMW 328i, and quite handily so. All while being obnoxiously loud, polluty, and illegal. Probably due to the bottlenecks of the 8AR platform which is the turbo, the intercooler, the transmission, lubrication system, and overall cooling. It's just not suitable for hot rodding, and understandably so.
Personally I'd recommend driving the car and enjoying as is =) It's classy, quiet, and quick enough right out of the box. And the best part is keep your warranty and no headaches. =) There's no better feeling in enthusiast car ownership than getting into your car every morning and not worrying about it breaking or having to jerk it off on the weekend to fix something that broke.
all the salaried engineers did all the hard work for you. all you have to do is enjoy!
Personally I'd recommend driving the car and enjoying as is =) It's classy, quiet, and quick enough right out of the box. And the best part is keep your warranty and no headaches. =) There's no better feeling in enthusiast car ownership than getting into your car every morning and not worrying about it breaking or having to jerk it off on the weekend to fix something that broke.
all the salaried engineers did all the hard work for you. all you have to do is enjoy!
I've been modding cars long enough to know what to mess with and not to anymore. Like you said, no more intake, exhaust or suspension mods as these are great from the factory. My main goal was to save a ton of money over a GS350 and obtain a superior level of performance. Almost there, just need a couple small tweaks.
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All well said but it’s not just that. It would make it easier for future clublexus members to locate what they are looking for. Such as but not limited to performance. They could go straight to XX200t then to builds or performance etc.
They wouldn’t have to read through a build per say and find out that company x mid pipe is only for v6. I’m quite sure all has been exhausted but RR is still working on their ECU tune and when that happens it should get lost in the shuffle.
It would really just be for ease of navigation. Like I said RC F has it why not XX200t.
They wouldn’t have to read through a build per say and find out that company x mid pipe is only for v6. I’m quite sure all has been exhausted but RR is still working on their ECU tune and when that happens it should get lost in the shuffle.
It would really just be for ease of navigation. Like I said RC F has it why not XX200t.
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If a new member with an 8ar-fts was having I don’t know boost issues they wouldn’t have to search through multiple ISx50 topics to get their specific issue is all I’m saying. That is just an example but I’m sure you get what I’m saying. Maybe it’s been asked before but I’m not going to search through thousands of topics to find out which is my point.
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Thanks for the suggestion. You bring up a good point. Though, I wonder if the amount of traffic/development in the 200t/300 (8AR) space would really allow users to benefit from this change, which E46CT alluded to.
I can float the idea to admins. Personally I have no strong opinion on this idea and unsure how it'll be received.
I can float the idea to admins. Personally I have no strong opinion on this idea and unsure how it'll be received.
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I’m new to this forum, but I understand the OPs concern of running across info just to later find out it’s not compatible with your trim level. I came from the BMW forums as my last car was an M3. The BMW forums are broken down by trim and it makes much more sense to do it this way. It was a lot easier to find what I was looking for because the forum allowed us to keep up with cutting edge development, while maintaining an organized archival structure. I’m still new to the IS platform, but I can image that, just like the BMW 3 series family, the IS family has many differences beyond what you can see and touch during daily driving.
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Nah, there's not really that many differences. For example the IS200t f Sport and IS350 F Sport, literally everything is the same except the engine. just a 10 lb difference. i think a couple of you are way over-romanticizing the 3IS platform due to being new to it. Good car, but not as "magical" or mythical as you guys seem to be implying. It's a Lexus just enjoy it =)
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Nah, there's not really that many differences. For example the IS200t f Sport and IS350 F Sport, literally everything is the same except the engine. just a 10 lb difference. i think a couple of you are way over-romanticizing the 3IS platform due to being new to it. Good car, but not as "magical" or mythical as you guys seem to be implying. It's a Lexus just enjoy it =)
Yes chassis are the same, brakes are the same as the 350 at least & interior etc. The motor and ECU which power the vehicle not. To me you seem anti-progression because you have a counter to positive progress to the question. I never said make a beast-mode sub for the turbo platform just asked for it to be separate nothing more nothing less. Yes I’m sure at this point everything has been exhausted on the 8ar-fts but some things are on the horizon and there are multiple components for intakes and exhaust now then there were before which is the only reason why I made the suggestion.