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Old Apr 7, 2020 | 09:14 AM
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their review of the car is less than stellar given that it's a dinosaur, using an inefficient ancient engine and poor infotainment software/hardware.
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Old Apr 7, 2020 | 09:48 AM
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That was a pretty brutal review. No reason to get this car new anymore...its just too old. Get it used or get another car unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by EZZ
That was a pretty brutal review. No reason to get this car new anymore...its just too old. Get it used or get another car unfortunately.
They were saying this when I got my 2019 IS new, but I paid for it new what they were listed on Autotrader used 2017-2018 with 10-20k miles.

If Lexus is putting $10k on the hood for you to take an IS, it *may* make sense to buy new. Especially if you’re as obsessive about your car as I am

edit: I do this most of the video is very fair. However, near the end of the video they complain about how vague and not fun the car is to drive. I have never, ever read a single other review that complains about this. Is it because it is AWD? Otherwise I’d say they’re flat out wrong there.

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That was a pretty brutal review. No reason to get this car new anymore...its just too old. Get it used or get another car unfortunately.

yeah, and the unfortunate thing is that toyota/lexus is going to extend this model out another whole year per rumors going around.
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Although a harsh review, it was deserved as anybody knows owning one of these. It’s in dire need of updates as they pointed out. They were honest though as they pointed out, although dated, it’s the one you buy and the others (competition) are the ones you lease. Still it’s a good driving car and reliable. I knew when I bought mine there were other miles faster, handled better, had more features, and relatively same price. I chose Lexus because I was buying the proven reliability of the NA V-6 that has been proven across the Toyota lineup. Yeah harsh, but honest, maybe the next version will be better. Maybe.

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They were saying this when I got my 2019 IS new, but I paid for it new what they were listed on Autotrader used 2017-2018 with 10-20k miles.

If Lexus is putting $10k on the hood for you to take an IS, it *may* make sense to buy new. Especially if you’re as obsessive about your car as I am
Sure...its like getting used prices so understandable. My brand new IS350 F-Sport has an MSRP of $49.7k which is almost the same price as my Model 3 Performance I have now. You can get a fully spec'd out G70 for the same price and it comes with 365hp. Lexus should at the least, lower the price to what you paid new for the V6 version.
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Originally Posted by BrettKA7
They were saying this when I got my 2019 IS new, but I paid for it new what they were listed on Autotrader used 2017-2018 with 10-20k miles.

If Lexus is putting $10k on the hood for you to take an IS, it *may* make sense to buy new. Especially if you’re as obsessive about your car as I am

edit: I do this most of the video is very fair. However, near the end of the video they complain about how vague and not fun the car is to drive. I have never, ever read a single other review that complains about this. Is it because it is AWD? Otherwise I’d say they’re flat out wrong there.
Re: your edit, I have also never before heard the car being vague and not so fun to drive. In fact, it's been lauded for its chassis and driving dynamics by some of the top auto journalists and automotive publications.
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Old Apr 7, 2020 | 02:06 PM
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Idem.
The IS Mk3 always had good recommendations about it's driving dynamics.

I would be glad to have this car sold in Switzerland. Really glad. The only IS we have is the 2.5L 4 cylinder with the E-Cvt, and the very unpopular 2L turbo. Both sound like farts and are rather un-exciting in regard to an older I6 or this V6. There is still no sportier choice around the corner in this regard, it is also a reason why I will probably will go for the RCF after the economic meltdown. But it will depend if the 2024 RC will have the 3L inline 6 actually developed with Mazda. In this case, I could become weak because I6's are my preferred engines.
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review is ok.
what i don't agree with:
1) i actually like the trackpad and don't have an issue.
2) the powertrain comments, my car is 200hp and i can break the speed limit in seconds, so comments about the IS being "faster" don't really make sense to me. i'd rather have something that can run on the road while i stomp the pedal instead of worrying about it

what I agree with:
1) the radio comment they brought it up is 100% accurate, i've owned my car for almost 3 years and have absolutely no idea how to use the radio because it's so confusing
2) car should have apple car play by now, doesn't make sense that they said 'they need to update the car' when there are aftermarket solutions on the market
3) powertrain: car shifts slow with paddles / manual shifting

people in the comment section in these videos who talk ****** are people who own toyotas or hondas who cant afford an IS. i am not trying to look down on them but, seriously, just pump the brakes a bit. my friend who owns an M3 never says anything bad about my car.. most he'll say is "it's slow" but an "excellent daily".
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The IS350 should have had a significant horsepower bump, way before now. My friends 426hp stock SS Camaro gets the same gas mileage as my 306hp V6. IS350 should be at minimum 330hp by now.
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Originally Posted by EvilJoker
The IS350 should have had a significant horsepower bump, way before now. My friends 426hp stock SS Camaro gets the same gas mileage as my 306hp V6. IS350 should be at minimum 330hp by now.
.. 1) that camero has an 8 cylinder 6.2L engine
2) looks like absolute s***
3) the interior probably all plastic.. you're comparing a luxury compact sports sedan to some cheapo american plastic car built on a conveyor belt and assembled by robots
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Originally Posted by swaangin
.. 1) that camero has an 8 cylinder 6.2L engine
2) looks like absolute s***
3) the interior probably all plastic.. you're comparing a luxury compact sports sedan to some cheapo american plastic car built on a conveyor belt and assembled by robots
Tell us how you really feel
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Old Apr 7, 2020 | 11:38 PM
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Compairing a 6.2 V8 mass market economy car with a 3.5 V6 Luxury sedan ? Yes, they will probably not have the same power.
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Old Apr 8, 2020 | 07:51 AM
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Car and Driver just did a review on the 2020 IS350 and I think it was pretty fair. I still really love the IS but Lexus is doing to it what they did to the GS - let it languish too long. At least the IS will get a replacement.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

The luxury compact sedan segment has seen a lot of change since the Lexus IS was last redesigned in 2013. The BMW 3-series has entered a new generation, as has the Mercedes-Benz C-class. The Alfa Romeo Giulia and Genesis G70 have joined the scene. With the sport-sedan arms race proceeding at a rapid pace, Lexus's aging entry is struggling to keep up.

HIGHS: Quiet, accommodating cabin; secure handling with F Sport package; whisper-quiet inside.

The only change to the IS lineup for the 2020 model year is a new Black Line special edition package, which our all-wheel-drive IS350 F Sport test car was outfitted with. For $2905, the package adds black exterior accents, heated and cooled leather front seats, and a steering wheel made of blue wood, among other minor aesthetic upgrades. The IS350 basics, including a 311-hp 3.5-liter V-6, six-speed automatic transmission, and optional all-wheel drive, are well known by now. (Rear-drive IS350s get an eight-speed automatic.) Opting for the $2365 F Sport upgrade adds a sport-tuned suspension, adaptive dampers, a Sport+ driving mode, revised front and rear bumpers, an updated instrument cluster, and various interior trim upgrades.

Inside, this Lexus puts up a luxurious front, with soft leather and real wood. But there's also plenty of plastic to be found. The infotainment system uses a large screen with good resolution, but the touchpad controller is overwrought and almost impossible to operate safely while driving. Our test car rang in at $53,830, a price at which the IS's value proposition—often a big selling point for Lexus—begins to evaporate.

Our car made merely a decent showing with its straight-line acceleration, running to 60 mph in 5.5 seconds and pushing through the quarter-mile in 14.1 seconds at 100 mph. That's plenty quick for the average driver, but the IS's competition accelerates much better. Our long-term BMW M340i hotfoots to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds and blasts through the quarter-mile in 12.3 seconds. A Genesis G70 with its optional twin-turbo 3.3-liter V-6 needs 4.4 and 13.0 seconds in the same measurements.

LOWS: Lacks appropriate straight-line punch, modest cornering grip, clumsy touchpad infotainment controller.

The M340i starts at $54,995, a negligible increase compared to our heavily optioned IS. The G70 V-6 starts at $47,545, slightly below our test car's $47,735 base price. Both the Bimmer and the Genesis have significantly more horsepower than the IS—and more modern eight-speed automatic transmissions—so it's not a surprise that they return better performance. Despite the IS's general flexibility and solid handling dynamics, its outdated powertrain keeps it from playing in the same league as the newer members in its class.

While we prefer the rear-drive version with additional gears and a better balance to its cornering behavior, the IS350 F Sport in either form is unquestionably the best-driving IS. The F Sport suspension reigns in the soft floatiness of the standard car's ride quality without ever making it feel harsh. The steering is well-weighted and accurate. The cabin is quiet and isolated even when you're pushing the car hard. And we'll always pass on the standard turbo-four for the 350's V-6. Still, even a Nissan Altima family sedan on all-season tires shames our test car's 0.83 g of grip around the skidpad, and a four-cylinder 3-series will beat it in a straight line. The Lexus IS remains a well-balanced and versatile sedan, but it needs to up its game to contend with the fresher members in its segment.
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0-60 in 5.5 and a 14.0 quarter mile isn’t “slow” for 95% of people who buy an IS, the other 5% who think of it as more of a sports car than they should are gonna be disappointed. It’s simply to big and heavy and underpowered to compete in straight line acceleration with any decent sports car. I love my 350 to death but it needed more power or to lose 400 pounds. My next car will be faster, at the expense of some reliability which I don’t mind. You gotta pay to play.
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