Any one raced a Type R yet? They put more WHP on dyno then IS350. My buddy has got one and we may run in future. He will probably beat me... urgh. What mods to beat Type R needed.

 

Supercharge your IS 350. That should do it haha. Maybe just an ECU tune might be enough. A full ECU tune with full bolt ons would be more effective.

 

Very simple mod they sell at the dealer


 

I was reading about the car. They even handle really well surprisingly. So you're beat there too, according to how many Gs it pulls in corners.

At least you'll look much better as he passes you repeatedly

 

I love our cars but it’s not even close.
Civic type r has more power, less weight, better transmission, better suspension, aerodynamics and on the track is 10x the trackcar the IS’s are.

They’re quick off the line, even though that’s their weekness... I’ve seen magazines get as good as 0-60 in 4.9 and a 13.5 quarter mile at 108mph trap speed. For reference a Lexus ISF traps at around 112 mph.
our cars run about a 5.5 0-60 and a 14.0 quarter mile at only a 100 mph trap speed.
0-60 wouldn’t be a complete blowout although a clear loss but by a quarter mile he’s pulling hard and after that he’s gone. On the track they are LETHAL.

New civic Type r does the Nürburgring track in 7:43.8...
That’s faster than a 500+ hp 2019 Aston Martin V8 vantage.

Check this link out. The civic type r destroys some 6 figure super cars around the track.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.auto...ng.html/%3famp

 

They are all manuals so if your friend messes up a shift, you have a chance. If they don't launch, their 0-60 isn't that impressive. Just have fun.

 

The type R is the fast front wheel drive car on the track at least on the Nurburgring

 

You don't stand a chance unless he blows a shift.

 

Type R approaches and almost meets E46 M3 straight line performance. So yeah... just enjoy your car for what it is. No need to compete with anyone.

Of course keep the racing off the streets. Concrete and pillars does not discriminate!

 

I don't see an IS350 beating a CTR unless you install a supercharger, aggressive LSD out back, gut the interior, and put on semi-slick tires at all four corners, as wide as you can fit, and throw in some track pads for good measure.

They are just very different cars - the IS350 was never designed to be a weekend track toy, it's a sporty luxury sedan.

the CTR is 3,100lbs+/- the IS350 is 3,700lbs+/- the weight difference is the real limiting factor of the IS. Dirty old drag racing math says you'd need at least a 60hp bump to make up for the weight difference just to match the CTR in a straight line, but once you hit a braking zone or a corner it's all over without other mods to improve handling, braking and reduce weight.

Maybe if he only uses the even gears you have a chance (start in 2nd, only use 2,4,6).

 

I don't know if they are actually taking it to the track. How many times have you challenged a friend and actually done that Its not like the CTR is a barn burner. Its a peaky 2L turbo so it will have to be in boost and have good shifts to win a drag. I bet it will be harder to launch given its FWD so I say since the IS350 doesn't take much skill to launch, and the CTR is a manual, just go do it.

 

Well they are either going to a track or a large piece of privately owned property; messing around on the street is a good way to get someone hurt, or worse.

On to the "peaky 2L turbo" comment this isn't the 70's or 80's where turbo engines were peaky, look at the dyno graphs yourself, the area under the curve for the civic type R is impressive.

The CTR hits peak torque that is fairly flat from ~3,000rpm until ~6,000rpm, horsepower climbs steadily until red line (which makes sense with such a flat torque curve)
The IS350 doesn't hit peak torque until ~4,000rpm and is flat until ~6,250rpm, horsepower climbs steadily until ~6,000 and is flat until red line.
The CTR has more area under the curve, and a longer curve to play with.

The manual in the CTR is going to transfer more power to the ground than the auto in the IS350 as well, and Honda manuals are notoriously good with regards to precision when shifting.

I own an IS350, it's a great car, but I'm not going to ignore what Honda has managed to engineer; and we're still talking about a 600lb+ deficit between the two cars. Maybe the CTR has a few heavy friends that can ride along to even things out.

 

I find that reaction time and driving skill (especially in manuals) play a big factor in a short drag. If they are rolling at 30mph and both punch it, i'm sure the CTR will walk away easily but anything can happen from a stop. I've only run a CTR with my Tesla so its hard to gauge what a 350 would do (it didn't seem that fast). Mustangs seem much faster when I played with them.

 

One car traps at 108mph stock, the other at 100mph.

One Laps the Nurburgring faster than some super cars.

At no point other than 0-20mph is it close.

 

Yup you are 100% correct imo. It would still be up for grabs based on everything your saying.

And please, they are not going to the track or a large piece of private property. Although, they should of course.

This is real world vs what's on paper.