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Old Feb 2, 2020 | 02:55 PM
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I am contemplating buying some used 18x8 wheels they are Drag Extremealloys offset is 47. All 4 for $300. Do you guys think it would be a good setup for winter and what do you guys think about the price? Also what’s the max width tires I can run on these wheels without it being dangerous?
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Old Feb 2, 2020 | 04:32 PM
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^^ The price seem pretty decent and if you buy them for winter tires/rims, I think that will be a decent complement to your set up....I would not use them to replace OEM wheels myself.
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Old Feb 2, 2020 | 06:13 PM
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^^ The price seem pretty decent and if you buy them for winter tires/rims, I think that will be a decent complement to your set up....I would not use them to replace OEM wheels myself.
Yeah definitely love the F Sport wheels and would probably never replace them with an aftermarket setup. They will be strictly my winter wheels.
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Once the rims clear the calipers in the front then they would be great winter wheels.
The stock F Sport front is 18x8 +45, so the new wheels will be 2mm closer to the front suspension...not a big deal, but that's why I mention about the calipers.
For winter you want the skinniest tire possible, not the widest...225/40/18 would be fine as that's the stock size for that dimension rim.
You could use 215/45/18...which is a little narrower and a little taller...it will give you a tad bit more ground clearance in winter.
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Old Feb 3, 2020 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Sasnuke
Once the rims clear the calipers in the front then they would be great winter wheels.
The stock F Sport front is 18x8 +45, so the new wheels will be 2mm closer to the front suspension...not a big deal, but that's why I mention about the calipers.
For winter you want the skinniest tire possible, not the widest...225/40/18 would be fine as that's the stock size for that dimension rim.
You could use 215/45/18...which is a little narrower and a little taller...it will give you a tad bit more ground clearance in winter.
I’m running spacers front and back so I think that would make it safe to run them on the front regardless of the fact that they are a little bit closer in. Yeah I’ve seen your multiple recommendations about running skinnier tires for winter on other threads haha I was asking what’s the widest in case I decided to use them for the summer to be able to rotate but then I decided against that. Would running 215/45/18 cause issues in the wheel wells since I’m lowered or is that extra height difference from the tire negligible in that regard? Also would running a 225/45/18 work too? Thanks for input, you’re probably the most helpful member on the 3IS threads
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Originally Posted by Flash5
I’m running spacers front and back so I think that would make it safe to run them on the front regardless of the fact that they are a little bit closer in. Yeah I’ve seen your multiple recommendations about running skinnier tires for winter on other threads haha I was asking what’s the widest in case I decided to use them for the summer to be able to rotate but then I decided against that. Would running 215/45/18 cause issues in the wheel wells since I’m lowered or is that extra height difference from the tire negligible in that regard? Also would running a 225/45/18 work too? Thanks for input, you’re probably the most helpful member on the 3IS threads
Thanks @Flash5
The height difference is just over 3mm's between a 225/40 and 215/45 for one half of the sidewall...so that's almost 7mm for the entire tire height...not much at all.
I know some have run 225/45/18 at stock height without issue (some managed to squeeze 225/50/18 - but that's hit or miss)...a couple things come to mind.
First, you're lowered on Downs, so that has to be taken into account, and second the speedo is gonna be off a bit. Total tire height would be just over 11mm's, or 5.6-ishmm's for one half the sidewall.
Honestly I'd stick with the 225/40/18...or if you could find 215/45/18.
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Thanks @Flash5
The height difference is just over 3mm's between a 225/40 and 215/45 for one half of the sidewall...so that's almost 7mm for the entire tire height...not much at all.
I know some have run 225/45/18 at stock height without issue (some managed to squeeze 225/50/18 - but that's hit or miss)...a couple things come to mind.
First, you're lowered on Downs, so that has to be taken into account, and second the speedo is gonna be off a bit. Total tire height would be just over 11mm's, or 5.6-ishmm's for one half the sidewall.
Honestly I'd stick with the 225/40/18...or if you could find 215/45/18.
Sounds good! Last question for you is, once I move back to the U.S. (most likely the South) what’s the widest tire I can safely use on these wheels. I plan on still using these as my “winter” setup but wouldn’t really ever encounter snow so I would run A/S tires instead of actual winter tires so I would want to run the widest possible square setup without being too stretched.
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Originally Posted by Flash5
Sounds good! Last question for you is, once I move back to the U.S. (most likely the South) what’s the widest tire I can safely use on these wheels. I plan on still using these as my “winter” setup but wouldn’t really ever encounter snow so I would run A/S tires instead of actual winter tires so I would want to run the widest possible square setup without being too stretched.
The widest I would go is 245/35/18.
It's wider than 225/40/18 obviously, but just a hair shorter.
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Old Feb 3, 2020 | 10:48 AM
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With wheels, make sure they are either forged or from a really really reputable company. Even for "winter beater" you will be running over potholes and such. It's not worth breaking a hub, or other things for a cheap deal, and running spacers means the forces are going to be more exaggerated.
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Originally Posted by V350
With wheels, make sure they are either forged or from a really really reputable company. Even for "winter beater" you will be running over potholes and such. It's not worth breaking a hub, or other things for a cheap deal, and running spacers means the forces are going to be more exaggerated.
They seem to be pretty decent I looked them up. Drag Extremealloys and they retail for $600 for the set. I’m not too worried about potholes though since it’s Germany and they take care of their roads here. I’ve been here a year already.
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Old Feb 3, 2020 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sasnuke
The widest I would go is 245/35/18.
It's wider than 225/40/18 obviously, but just a hair shorter.
Awesome that’s what I was hoping to hear. I just didn’t want to run 225 squared. 245 squared should be good. Thanks again @Sasnuke
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Old Feb 3, 2020 | 11:51 AM
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It's not just potholes, with spacers the stress on the wheels is somewhat changed. Even everyday driving on replica wheels can be dangerous. Plenty of videos/photos of breaks at the hub.
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Old Feb 3, 2020 | 12:27 PM
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I'd stick with 235 or 245 or so. There's not much gain to be had by going any wider. At least not to the point where it outweighs the cons.

As far as the wheels, if they are replica, as said, too many unknowns and potential headaches. Ask yourself why someone is selling so cheap to begin with. Something to consider if you're driving autobahn stuff too. Doing 150 mph is not the time when you want to start having doubts.

Stick with one set of wheels if you can. or if you really need a seasonal setup, just find a set of used 2IS wheels. Much more preferable than some generic junk.
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Old Feb 3, 2020 | 08:19 PM
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I'd stick with 235 or 245 or so. There's not much gain to be had by going any wider. At least not to the point where it outweighs the cons.

As far as the wheels, if they are replica, as said, too many unknowns and potential headaches. Ask yourself why someone is selling so cheap to begin with. Something to consider if you're driving autobahn stuff too. Doing 150 mph is not the time when you want to start having doubts.

Stick with one set of wheels if you can. or if you really need a seasonal setup, just find a set of used 2IS wheels. Much more preferable than some generic junk.
I’m definitely going to check them out. They were asking $400 but I offered $300. That’s not that far off from the $600 retail price for the set and reselling wheels is usually at a big loss unless it’s a super nice set that cost a bunch but even then reselling you lose money like anything else. I’m not worried about that part at all.
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Originally Posted by V350
It's not just potholes, with spacers the stress on the wheels is somewhat changed. Even everyday driving on replica wheels can be dangerous. Plenty of videos/photos of breaks at the hub.
If the wheels clear the calipers without the spacers I’m going to do it if not I’m going to pass because I didn’t want to run spacers during the winter anyways. Thanks though!
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