IS - 3rd Gen (2014-present) Discussion about the 2014+ model IS models

RR USRS for inner tire wear

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 25, 2019 | 10:08 PM
  #1  
swaangin's Avatar
swaangin
Thread Starter
Racer
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,692
Likes: 382
From: nj
Default RR USRS for inner tire wear

https://www.rr-racing.com/Lexus-Lowe...isfxlca001.htm

This is all I need to get to solve this issue? It helps the tires wear better and provides longer life?

(2015 IS 250 AWD)

Does this help with steering response?
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2019 | 10:17 PM
  #2  
Flash5's Avatar
Flash5
Pole Position
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,626
Likes: 459
From: GA
Default

Originally Posted by swaangin
https://www.rr-racing.com/Lexus-Lowe...isfxlca001.htm

This is all I need to get to solve this issue? It helps the tires wear better and provides longer life?

(2015 IS 250 AWD)

Does this help with steering response?
The inner tire wear issue will be resolved. The steering response will be MUCH better but at the cost of NVH. Basically it will be very stiff. Some people say the Figs bushings are a little softer, but if you want to go OEM some of us are rocking the RCF/GSF LCA bushings. They are stiffer than our stock ones but not as stuff as Poly ones.
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2019 | 10:24 PM
  #3  
swaangin's Avatar
swaangin
Thread Starter
Racer
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,692
Likes: 382
From: nj
Default

Originally Posted by Flash5

The inner tire wear issue will be resolved. The steering response will be MUCH better but at the cost of NVH. Basically it will be very stiff. Some people say the Figs bushings are a little softer, but if you want to go OEM some of us are rocking the RCF/GSF LCA bushings. They are stiffer than our stock ones but not as stuff as Poly ones.
Thanks for that info, what is NVH? And do the RCF/GSF LCA bushings fix the inner tire wear issue as well?
I am trying to understand it being "stiff", will the car be feeling more imperfections on the road essentially? Is the stiffness equal to the stiffness increase in a drop via lowering springs? Sorry, never heard of or done this before
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 12:41 AM
  #4  
Flash5's Avatar
Flash5
Pole Position
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,626
Likes: 459
From: GA
Default

Originally Posted by swaangin
Thanks for that info, what is NVH? And do the RCF/GSF LCA bushings fix the inner tire wear issue as well?
I am trying to understand it being "stiff", will the car be feeling more imperfections on the road essentially? Is the stiffness equal to the stiffness increase in a drop via lowering springs? Sorry, never heard of or done this before
NVH= Noise, Vibration, and Harshness. So yes Poly bushings will make it so that you feel imperfections in the road much more. This is the trade off to better handling and no dynamic toe in (that’s what causes the inner tire wear). Several of us are barely trying the RCF/GSF bushings to see if inner tire wear is reduced or eliminated. We haven’t put enough miles in on them just yet to know, maybe another member can chime in on their inner tire wear with these.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 06:45 AM
  #5  
JNP1227's Avatar
JNP1227
Instructor
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 774
Likes: 192
From: Massachusetts
Default

Originally Posted by Flash5

The inner tire wear issue will be resolved. The steering response will be MUCH better but at the cost of NVH. Basically it will be very stiff. Some people say the Figs bushings are a little softer, but if you want to go OEM some of us are rocking the RCF/GSF LCA bushings. They are stiffer than our stock ones but not as stuff as Poly ones.
I have had the RR USRS installed for about 4000 miles (no signs of inner tire wear) and the NVH is not a drastic increase, but a minimal increase. These bushings have a sportier stiffness feeling but nothing where it is unbearable.

I personally love them so far as I enjoy feeling where the tire/wheel is heading.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 07:59 AM
  #6  
Tungstn-IS's Avatar
Tungstn-IS
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 462
Likes: 56
From: Texas
Default

I had the FIG's bushings in my previous IS. Road imperfections, vibrations, bumps and such definitely increased with them, but I didn't find it intolerable. It did make the front end feel much more stable and precise. But I am holding out to see if the GSF/RCF bushing actually cure the inner tire wear this time. I mean, if it doesn't occur on those cars there's no reason it wouldn't solve the problem on the IS. The only reason I would go with those instead of poly bushings is just so I don't have to bother with greasing squeaky bushings every so often. Of course there is a significant price difference as well unless you want to bother with pressing them in.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 08:16 AM
  #7  
TonyN's Avatar
TonyN
Instructor
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 999
Likes: 142
From: Tucson
Default

I did the RCF LCA about 5k ago, no front tire wear but my rears are scalloped. I'm going with the SPC camber kit in the rear to straighten up the back wheels to under 1 degree. Hoping this will fix all my tire wear issues front and back, so far the fronts seems good with the RCF bushing. I know the scollping is from toe but I think the rear bushing are soft and the 1.6-2.0 negative camber is only making the problem even more pronounced.
By Saturday my camber setting in the rear will be set at .08 for the rears, fronts are .5-.8 last time I checked. Toe will be +.05 front and +.10 rear. These spec should yield great tire wear and longevity without scratch sacrificing much turn in performance for a daily driver.

Last edited by TonyN; Feb 26, 2019 at 08:59 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 08:22 AM
  #8  
arentz07's Avatar
arentz07
Moderator
5 Year Member
Shutterbug
Community Influencer
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 9,612
Likes: 4,801
From: GA
Default

Originally Posted by TonyN
I did the RCF LCA about 5k ago, no front tire wear but my tears are scalloped. I'm going with the SPC camber kit in the rear to straighten up the back wheels to under 1 degree. Hoping this will fix all my tire wear issues front and back, so far the fronts seems good with the RCF bushing.
You have a lowered car right? I wonder if OP has any suspension mods already or not.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 08:55 AM
  #9  
TonyN's Avatar
TonyN
Instructor
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 999
Likes: 142
From: Tucson
Default

Originally Posted by arentz07
You have a lowered car right? I wonder if OP has any suspension mods already or not.
nope, stock springs and shock.
I drive 20k or more miles a year, I can't go replacing tires every few months. I am going with a 400+ tread rating tie also, I'm ok with giving up a bit of handling for longer tire life.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 09:03 AM
  #10  
arentz07's Avatar
arentz07
Moderator
5 Year Member
Shutterbug
Community Influencer
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 9,612
Likes: 4,801
From: GA
Default

Originally Posted by TonyN
nope, stock springs and shock.
I drive 20k or more miles a year, I can't go replacing tires every few months. I am going with a 400+ tread rating tie also, I'm ok with giving up a bit of handling for longer tire life.
That is strange. I wonder if anyone else on stock suspension is having the rear tire scalloping issue.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 09:40 AM
  #11  
JNP1227's Avatar
JNP1227
Instructor
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 774
Likes: 192
From: Massachusetts
Default

Originally Posted by TonyN
I did the RCF LCA about 5k ago, no front tire wear but my rears are scalloped. I'm going with the SPC camber kit in the rear to straighten up the back wheels to under 1 degree. Hoping this will fix all my tire wear issues front and back, so far the fronts seems good with the RCF bushing. I know the scollping is from toe but I think the rear bushing are soft and the 1.6-2.0 negative camber is only making the problem even more pronounced.
By Saturday my camber setting in the rear will be set at .08 for the rears, fronts are .5-.8 last time I checked. Toe will be +.05 front and +.10 rear. These spec should yield great tire wear and longevity without scratch sacrificing much turn in performance for a daily driver.

Wow on stock suspension? Are you RWD or AWD? I have 35k on my rears and no issues so far and I am AWD.

You might want to make sure the the tires are balanced properly. Wouldn't hurt to check your struts or rear strut mount.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 11:13 AM
  #12  
Napalvr's Avatar
Napalvr
Advanced
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 609
Likes: 85
From: Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by TonyN
I did the RCF LCA about 5k ago, no front tire wear but my rears are scalloped. I'm going with the SPC camber kit in the rear to straighten up the back wheels to under 1 degree. Hoping this will fix all my tire wear issues front and back, so far the fronts seems good with the RCF bushing. I know the scollping is from toe but I think the rear bushing are soft and the 1.6-2.0 negative camber is only making the problem even more pronounced.
By Saturday my camber setting in the rear will be set at .08 for the rears, fronts are .5-.8 last time I checked. Toe will be +.05 front and +.10 rear. These spec should yield great tire wear and longevity without scratch sacrificing much turn in performance for a daily driver.
I have an AWD with down springs and my rear tires are scalloped on the inside. I run 19” summer stock winter setup. I done drive more than 3-4K a year. Got camber arms last fall and set them to -1.5(from -2.4). I will get new tires this spring so I’ll see if the camber arms helps or not. My alignment is dead on zero for toe
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 12:51 PM
  #13  
swaangin's Avatar
swaangin
Thread Starter
Racer
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,692
Likes: 382
From: nj
Default

Originally Posted by JNP1227
I have had the RR USRS installed for about 4000 miles (no signs of inner tire wear) and the NVH is not a drastic increase, but a minimal increase. These bushings have a sportier stiffness feeling but nothing where it is unbearable.

I personally love them so far as I enjoy feeling where the tire/wheel is heading.
Do the bushings squeak at all? I've read in places that you have to constantly take it apart and grease them or else they will get squeaky.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 01:05 PM
  #14  
tabjohitol's Avatar
tabjohitol
Rookie
 
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 79
Likes: 13
From: VA
Default

I've had them on for almost 10,000 miles and have not noticed any squeaking. I did apply a liberal amount of grease when I first installed them, but that was 9 months ago. I also installed new tires at the same time, and so far the inner tire wear problem I was seeing on the previous tires appears to have been rectified.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2019 | 01:43 PM
  #15  
dteskmo's Avatar
dteskmo
Driver
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 87
Likes: 24
From: Alberta
Default

Originally Posted by swaangin
Do the bushings squeak at all? I've read in places that you have to constantly take it apart and grease them or else they will get squeaky.
I had to grease the RR Racing bushings twice within 1.5 years, but in the last year of running the Figs/Superpro bushings I have not had to re-grease.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:16 PM.