2016 Lexus IS350 RWD Canada
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As long as you're not going on 15% grade roads all day, you're fine with RWD and using proper tires, you are fine.
AWD is overrated because some people think they are invincible driving on roads in snow/slick conditions because they have a 4x4/AWD and would drive like normal; Ironically, they are the ones who end up in accidents first in those conditions. Also consider back in the day, people learned how to drive on RWD as FWD and AWD did not exist.
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Lexus Canada announced the IS lineup on June 26th here which did not include the 350 RWD.
It's no surprise the 350 RWD didn't make the cut since sales in Canada of this specific model were poor. Overwhelming majority of IS sales has been the 250 AWD.
We'll see how well the 200t in RWD-only guise does up here.
It's no surprise the 350 RWD didn't make the cut since sales in Canada of this specific model were poor. Overwhelming majority of IS sales has been the 250 AWD.
We'll see how well the 200t in RWD-only guise does up here.
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I've lived in Montreal, Edmonton and now GTA. I've driven RWD and FWD in all those cities and countless between them, including SUV, sedan and sport cars. RWD is the way to go, even in packed snow roads like Edmonton. More control, and definitely more stable if you know what you are doing. The key is winter tires, easy on the throttle.
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You guys in Canada are getting the IS300 AWD too, right?
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There is so much misconception about AWD it's not even funny anymore so let's stick to the IS AWD system. It is predominately RWD with 30% of the torque directed to the front wheels at all times. It will then adjust 50/50 under slip conditions. AWD drive only allows for better take off and "drive" traction, it doesn't help with stopping whatsoever. One can modulate between throttle and brake control to achieve even better traction with RWD and winter tires. This requires full attention on the road, the response of the car and changing road conditions. I guess one can't do that while texting inane banter to their bff.
I've lived in Montreal, Edmonton and now GTA. I've driven RWD and FWD in all those cities and countless between them, including SUV, sedan and sport cars. RWD is the way to go, even in packed snow roads like Edmonton. More control, and definitely more stable if you know what you are doing. The key is winter tires, easy on the throttle.
I've lived in Montreal, Edmonton and now GTA. I've driven RWD and FWD in all those cities and countless between them, including SUV, sedan and sport cars. RWD is the way to go, even in packed snow roads like Edmonton. More control, and definitely more stable if you know what you are doing. The key is winter tires, easy on the throttle.
There have been several tests over the years where fwd or rwd vehicles with winter tires out-performed an AWD on all-seasons in virtually all winter tests.
Yep and it's pretty good value compared to the 250 AWD considering the small price hike and the detuned 2GR FSE from the 350.
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There is so much misconception about AWD it's not even funny anymore so let's stick to the IS AWD system. It is predominately RWD with 30% of the torque directed to the front wheels at all times. It will then adjust 50/50 under slip conditions. AWD drive only allows for better take off and "drive" traction, it doesn't help with stopping whatsoever. One can modulate between throttle and brake control to achieve even better traction with RWD and winter tires. This requires full attention on the road, the response of the car and changing road conditions. I guess one can't do that while texting inane banter to their bff.
I've lived in Montreal, Edmonton and now GTA. I've driven RWD and FWD in all those cities and countless between them, including SUV, sedan and sport cars. RWD is the way to go, even in packed snow roads like Edmonton. More control, and definitely more stable if you know what you are doing. The key is winter tires, easy on the throttle.
I've lived in Montreal, Edmonton and now GTA. I've driven RWD and FWD in all those cities and countless between them, including SUV, sedan and sport cars. RWD is the way to go, even in packed snow roads like Edmonton. More control, and definitely more stable if you know what you are doing. The key is winter tires, easy on the throttle.
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I'm from Canada, and I drive RWD. Jeff Lange too also runs RWD.
As long as you're not going on 15% grade roads all day, you're fine with RWD and using proper tires, you are fine.
AWD is overrated because some people think they are invincible driving on roads in snow/slick conditions because they have a 4x4/AWD and would drive like normal; Ironically, they are the ones who end up in accidents first in those conditions. Also consider back in the day, people learned how to drive on RWD as FWD and AWD did not exist.
As long as you're not going on 15% grade roads all day, you're fine with RWD and using proper tires, you are fine.
AWD is overrated because some people think they are invincible driving on roads in snow/slick conditions because they have a 4x4/AWD and would drive like normal; Ironically, they are the ones who end up in accidents first in those conditions. Also consider back in the day, people learned how to drive on RWD as FWD and AWD did not exist.
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People *think* AWD is like 4WD and that it is better in snow. Those same people are the ones that go flying past you on the highway in the snow and 20mins you pass them as they are upside down in a ditch.
Personally, RWD is more FUN in the snow, I've driven crappy FWD cars all my life and never had an issue in the snow, this will be my first winter with the AWD, and chances are I'd rather take my beater to work instead of risking the Lexus with the rest of the nut jobs on our roads in the winter.
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Sales to consumers that hardly understand their cars is not an indication of one configuration being superior over another.
People *think* AWD is like 4WD and that it is better in snow. Those same people are the ones that go flying past you on the highway in the snow and 20mins you pass them as they are upside down in a ditch.
Personally, RWD is more FUN in the snow, I've driven crappy FWD cars all my life and never had an issue in the snow, this will be my first winter with the AWD, and chances are I'd rather take my beater to work instead of risking the Lexus with the rest of the nut jobs on our roads in the winter.
People *think* AWD is like 4WD and that it is better in snow. Those same people are the ones that go flying past you on the highway in the snow and 20mins you pass them as they are upside down in a ditch.
Personally, RWD is more FUN in the snow, I've driven crappy FWD cars all my life and never had an issue in the snow, this will be my first winter with the AWD, and chances are I'd rather take my beater to work instead of risking the Lexus with the rest of the nut jobs on our roads in the winter.
Sales numbers are the only true reflection of customer preference and what model is more suited. Saying anything otherwise is merely your opinion.
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AWD holds up better in Canadian conditions. This is clearly evident from the number of AWD sales in Canada for IS and 2016 IS 350 only being available in AWD here.
Sales numbers are the only true reflection of customer preference and what model is more suited. Saying anything otherwise is merely your opinion.
Sales numbers are the only true reflection of customer preference and what model is more suited. Saying anything otherwise is merely your opinion.
Please do educate us all then how the amount of sales of a car proves how it is more suited to the climate? If you don't think the average buyer of a car has no idea really how a car works or operates then your very niave. They buy what they like and hopefully what they can afford. If AWD was so superior and suited to our climate every other car on the road would have it or be some giant SUV.
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So your right and everyone else is wrong then?
Please do educate us all then how the amount of sales of a car proves how it is more suited to the climate? If you don't think the average buyer of a car has no idea really how a car works or operates then your very niave. They buy what they like and hopefully what they can afford. If AWD was so superior and suited to our climate every other car on the road would have it or be some giant SUV.
Please do educate us all then how the amount of sales of a car proves how it is more suited to the climate? If you don't think the average buyer of a car has no idea really how a car works or operates then your very niave. They buy what they like and hopefully what they can afford. If AWD was so superior and suited to our climate every other car on the road would have it or be some giant SUV.
- If you think that the average buyer is just walking in to a dealership on a whim, in today's age of information and over-awareness, then I'm afraid you've deluded yourself into thinking you're the one who is right and everyone else just buys things without doing any research.
- Last time I drove down the highway, I am dead certain the majority of vehicles WERE SUVs and Trucks, and not coupes and sedans.
What Canada do you live in buddy? And, I'm happy for you and your RWD purchase. But, at no point did I say that AWD was the only way to go and RWD was the wrong choice. How about reading my previous posts before getting hostile on an internet forum next time?
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