pedal replacement recall
You my friend need to stop talking out of your rear end. Please only post information that is factual. I've had this recall done months ago and it's fine. To the OP, stop worrying it's not an issue but rather a safety feature that most cars already have, Toyota was just behind the ball. You won't notice any difference on performance because it affects none of that. Also there is tons upon tons of info already out there about this so please search first before posting.
The intelligence behind the brake override logic is quite sophisticated.
Jeff
Originally Posted by Toyota
When the vehicle throttle is opened beyond the idle position, at speeds greater than five miles per hour and then the brakes are firmly applied for longer than one-half second, the override feature will reduce engine output to the idle position, allowing greater braking performance.
The feature has sophisticated control logic intended to eliminate undesirable or inappropriate activation and is designed to be imperceptible. In certain driving conditions, unnecessary activation of brake override would create an inconvenient or even unsafe situation.
For example, the brake override feature does not operate if the brake pedal is depressed before the accelerator pedal. This logic allows for vehicles starting on a steep a hill to safely accelerate without rolling backwards, otherwise known as a hill start.
Toyota engineers have carefully calibrated the system control logic to prevent the system from interfering with efforts to free a vehicle by rocking it to gain traction in snow or mud. Since some drivers prefer to brake with the left foot, the system also recognizes this as an intentional action by the driver and will allow the accelerator to function normally.
The feature has sophisticated control logic intended to eliminate undesirable or inappropriate activation and is designed to be imperceptible. In certain driving conditions, unnecessary activation of brake override would create an inconvenient or even unsafe situation.
For example, the brake override feature does not operate if the brake pedal is depressed before the accelerator pedal. This logic allows for vehicles starting on a steep a hill to safely accelerate without rolling backwards, otherwise known as a hill start.
Toyota engineers have carefully calibrated the system control logic to prevent the system from interfering with efforts to free a vehicle by rocking it to gain traction in snow or mud. Since some drivers prefer to brake with the left foot, the system also recognizes this as an intentional action by the driver and will allow the accelerator to function normally.
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There is no reason not to get it done. The car drives the same and after a day your body will not notice the small difference in the pedal feel. If you don't get it done and you are the cause of an accident and you have declined the recall then you are exposing yourself to a lot of liability. If the performance, feel or driving charecteristics were negatively impacted that would be one thing. The pedal will look a tad different but how much time do you spend looking at your pedal? Hopefully not much. Go with the majority on the people on the forum that have had it done and don't worry. You will be fine.
Except that the shorter sport pedal looks bad compared to the original, and you gain absolutely nothing in return for that.
Exactly the same amount of liability as if you never heard of the recall but still caused an accident.
Exactly the same amount of liability as if you caused an accident having nothing whatsoever to do with the gas pedal.
Especially since the recall explicitly states that no problem exists with the original pedal if you use the correct floor mat and secure it properly.
The pedal recall is a solution in search of a problem.
But if you really don't care about how the pedal looks (and on the non-sport pedal it's a lot harder to tell its been done) there's no real "harm" in doing it... there's just no real benefit either.
Exactly the same amount of liability as if you caused an accident having nothing whatsoever to do with the gas pedal.
Especially since the recall explicitly states that no problem exists with the original pedal if you use the correct floor mat and secure it properly.
The pedal recall is a solution in search of a problem.
But if you really don't care about how the pedal looks (and on the non-sport pedal it's a lot harder to tell its been done) there's no real "harm" in doing it... there's just no real benefit either.
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Kurtz, we have disagreed on this topic in the past and will do so until the end of the day. Toyota/Lexus has remedies that almost everybody has accepted and is not a big deal yet you encourage people not to do it, hold their ground and act as if a slightly modifiied gas pedal is ruining the car. You get a safer brake system and no worries about some idiot accidentally putting a floor mat in wrong. Why open yourself up to such liability for peanuts? I would not want something to happen with my car when it is on record that I have declined the remedy. Feel free to preach your message, but thankfully the majority of owners are doing the prudent thing.
Kurtz, we have disagreed on this topic in the past and will do so until the end of the day. Toyota/Lexus has remedies that almost everybody has accepted and is not a big deal yet you encourage people not to do it, hold their ground and act as if a slightly modifiied gas pedal is ruining the car. You get a safer brake system and no worries about some idiot accidentally putting a floor mat in wrong.
But even if they did, I understand what the "n" setting on my gear shift does, so it's still not even slightly a problem.
What liability?
You would be exactly as liable if you cause an accident regardless of if you had any outstanding recalls performed on it or not.
And since it's impossible for the gas pedal to cause an accident anyway if the mat is used properly, you keep repeating a point that is not only untrue (some imaginary increased liability) but also impossible.
If you feel safer getting the recall, and don't care about the ugly pedal, by all means get it.
I'm simply trying to educate you that it's an imaginary safety you're feeling good about unless you're planning to put the wrong floormats in or don't know what neutral does.
Last edited by Kurtz; Dec 11, 2010 at 06:31 PM.
Not sure about Lexus USA, but here in Canada, they have procedures in place to just do one or the other as far as I know. At Toyota, we have a big stamp they use on the work order, check off what the customer wants and doesn't want done, and they sign it.
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