Manual IS350?
11-19-07, 11:26 AM
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Manual IS350?
I wish there was a Manual IS350 outthere. I just dunt get it why they did not make a Manual IS350 for those who loves the Manual transmations.
I know there is a manual for the IS250, but why not IS350??
I know there is a manual for the IS250, but why not IS350??
11-19-07, 12:37 PM
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Probably because Lexus knows the market for manual Lexus are very small. They decided it does not make sense to spent money on research and development on a manual transmission for the IS350 when they are only going to sell a handful of those.
If you truly wanted a stick, I would have looked at the G35 and 335i more closely.
If you truly wanted a stick, I would have looked at the G35 and 335i more closely.
11-19-07, 12:51 PM
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Probably because Lexus knows the market for manual Lexus are very small. They decided it does not make sense to spent money on research and development on a manual transmission for the IS350 when they are only going to sell a handful of those.
If you truly wanted a stick, I would have looked at the G35 and 335i more closely.
If you truly wanted a stick, I would have looked at the G35 and 335i more closely.
So still, not sure why they didnot make a manual for IS350?
there must be a valid reason for not making them.
11-19-07, 01:06 PM
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It's just not worth it. Period. Although I wish Lexus would offer a manual IS350 (not that I want one) so all the bashers could just shut the *beep* up about this issue.
It is not as easy as you think that they can just apply IS250's manual tranny onto the IS350. Different engine, different torque and different power output are all factors why the same 6 speed won't comply. This is not a "plug and play" kind of thing.
As for why there are manual IS250 and not IS350 is because Lexus sells way more 250 than 350 (something like 70%-30%). Given that Lexus sells about 4,500 IS monthly on average (this is only in US and IS350 is only offered in NA and Japan, OTOH IS250 is offered in almost every other markets) that means only about 1,350 units are IS350. I don't know what's the ratio between manual and auto IS250 is but I would be surprised if more than 15% of the IS250 sold are manual. Using that number that means if Lexus does offer a manual IS350, the monthly total will be about 200 units. That's 2,400 units annually and less than 15,000 units life time if Lexus stays with the 5-6 years life cycle. To be honest, I just don't think the number is big enough for Lexus to consider it given that they'll have to spend on R&D and modifying the production line.
At the end, Lexus is out to make a profit.
It is not as easy as you think that they can just apply IS250's manual tranny onto the IS350. Different engine, different torque and different power output are all factors why the same 6 speed won't comply. This is not a "plug and play" kind of thing.
As for why there are manual IS250 and not IS350 is because Lexus sells way more 250 than 350 (something like 70%-30%). Given that Lexus sells about 4,500 IS monthly on average (this is only in US and IS350 is only offered in NA and Japan, OTOH IS250 is offered in almost every other markets) that means only about 1,350 units are IS350. I don't know what's the ratio between manual and auto IS250 is but I would be surprised if more than 15% of the IS250 sold are manual. Using that number that means if Lexus does offer a manual IS350, the monthly total will be about 200 units. That's 2,400 units annually and less than 15,000 units life time if Lexus stays with the 5-6 years life cycle. To be honest, I just don't think the number is big enough for Lexus to consider it given that they'll have to spend on R&D and modifying the production line.
At the end, Lexus is out to make a profit.
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11-19-07, 01:07 PM
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nah, doesnt mean your looking for a stick ,that mean you have to give up the Lexus luxury. plus , if what you are saying is ture,so how come the IS250 has a stick. the only different is the power between the is350 and is250.
So still, not sure why they didnot make a manual for IS350? there must be a valid reason for not making them.
So still, not sure why they didnot make a manual for IS350?
there must be a valid reason for not making them.With that in mind (and this is just speculation), they probably figured it was no big deal to just bring over a thousand or so manual transmission IS250 units every year, since they were already building them anyway......
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