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Old May 28, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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I've seen a lot of mention about this, and for those that have it, I have a few questions before I do this to my car. I know it says it's a transparent film, but how do you clean your car if it has clear bra? I assume trying to wax is pointless? How do you keep it clean or get that deep glossy finish? I've read the web site, and it doesn't seem obvious to me how it works. I'm not sure how something that is a clear thin piece of plastic is going to prevent a rock from chipping the hood of my car or bumper.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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The guy who installed my clear bra recommended spraying Plexus on it after every 2 washes. I have been using it and It does give it a shine and the bugs come off pretty easy. I love my clear bra

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=280244
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Old May 28, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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This is and excerpt from the FAQ section on the 3M website in regards to their paint protection film.

Q. Can I use wax over Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film?
A. Yes. When waxing the vehicle, some wax may build up along the film edges. This can easily be removed when dry with a soft cloth, such as a 3M™ High Performance Cloth. Do not use any waxes containing dyes or waxes that are not recommended for urethanes. Abrasive polishes and/or rubbing compounds are not to be used.
I'm pretty sure most this goes for most of the other clear films on the market.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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So is it really that clear that you don't notice it is even there? How do you keep it looking as good as the rest of the car? Do you get the car detailed right before applying the protective film since it is semi-permanent?
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Old May 28, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jdanon
So is it really that clear that you don't notice it is even there? How do you keep it looking as good as the rest of the car? Do you get the car detailed right before applying the protective film since it is semi-permanent?
You will see the seams where the pieces end, but as long as you get a good install that is pretty much it. When it is dark, the bra is easier to see, but in the sun it's practically invisible. When I wear my polarized sunglasses I can see some trippy colors from the bra but that is about it. Also, there is no need to get it detailed before installation.

If you are taking it to someone else to get detailed after installing the bra, make sure to tell them so they don't use a waxer on it. My installer (Francisco @ Aerotect ) told me that it's possible to bring the edges up a bit if it's getting buffed too much. But, all you need to do is bring some painter's tape (that's the blue one right?) and put it on the seams as kind of a warning to the detailer.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jdanon
So is it really that clear that you don't notice it is even there? How do you keep it looking as good as the rest of the car? Do you get the car detailed right before applying the protective film since it is semi-permanent?
Yes, it is definitely clear. For the "untrained" eye, it can't be seen. Just had mine installed this morning, my friends did not notice it's there until I pointed out the film edges.

No need to get the car detailed before install, just wash it with soap and water. DON'T WAX. My car is only 5 days old so I didn't even wash it, the installer did the all the necessary cleaning prior to installation.

As for maintenance, the film card says
  1. Apply the automotive wax to your film precisely as you would to the underlying paint finish. But I would definitely avoid, as mentioned above, any waxes containing dyes or waxes that are not recommended for urethanes and abrasive polishes and/or rubbing compounds.
  2. As for white vehicles, they say that it must be washed weekly and waxed monthly to stop discoloring due to dirt, acid rain, pollen, etc becoming
    embedded in the film. Waranty will be voided if film is not maintained on a white car.

I have GFM so I will consider it as white. I wash my cars weekly anyways, so no problem .

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Old May 28, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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I think it is the best idea!
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Old May 28, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jdanon
I've seen a lot of mention about this, and for those that have it, I have a few questions before I do this to my car. I know it says it's a transparent film, but how do you clean your car if it has clear bra? I assume trying to wax is pointless? How do you keep it clean or get that deep glossy finish? I've read the web site, and it doesn't seem obvious to me how it works. I'm not sure how something that is a clear thin piece of plastic is going to prevent a rock from chipping the hood of my car or bumper.
My biggest regret is not getting my front bumper a clear bra. My hood has maybe 4 rock chips, but my front bumper has about 10 with 7.5k miles. Definitely get the front bumper done!
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Old May 28, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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I'm not sold on the idea. Especially with a $500 price tag. Regardless, even with a clear bra, a rock traveling at 80mph towards your front bumper will make a mark.

If it's bugs your worried about, wax the front bumper and lower hood often. It will be easier to remove the residue and reduce the damage done to your paint.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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where can i get this plexus stuff.. do they sell it at retail stores?
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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I could not find the Plexus at any of my local stores so I did a search online and it is sold at a lot of online stores. The installer mentioned looking at a motorcycle shop. It is a plastic cleaner and polish so I also use it on the headlights too.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bISdak250
As for maintenance, the film card says
  1. Apply the automotive wax to your film precisely as you would to the underlying paint finish. But I would definitely avoid, as mentioned above, any waxes containing dyes or waxes that are not recommended for urethanes and abrasive polishes and/or rubbing compounds.
  2. As for white vehicles, they say that it must be washed weekly and waxed monthly to stop discoloring due to dirt, acid rain, pollen, etc becoming
    embedded in the film. Waranty will be voided if film is not maintained on a white car.

I have GFM so I will consider it as white. I wash my cars weekly anyways, so no problem .
This is my one biggest complaint and disappointment with the clear bra. The clear bra on my GFM is already showing some discoloration (yellowing), even though it has been garaged and out of the elements for literally 90% of its life. I wash regularly and have waxed it a few times too. Mine's not even a daily driver (5k miles in just under a year) so I really question the long-term durability of the film, although it has saved me from a few nasty rock chips. I wish I had gotten the film card or even a verbal warning on this condition when I got it installed.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AZ IS350
This is my one biggest complaint and disappointment with the clear bra. The clear bra on my GFM is already showing some discoloration (yellowing), even though it has been garaged and out of the elements for literally 90% of its life. I wash regularly and have waxed it a few times too. Mine's not even a daily driver (5k miles in just under a year) so I really question the long-term durability of the film, although it has saved me from a few nasty rock chips. I wish I had gotten the film card or even a verbal warning on this condition when I got it installed.
AZ IS350, do you have the 3M clear bra?
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Old May 29, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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AZ IS350, do you have the 3M clear bra?
Yes it's the 3M clear bra, done by a 3M certified installer. The discoloration risk was never mentioned to me and I don't recall receiving any care literature with it either. I'll have to double-check.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AZ IS350
Yes it's the 3M clear bra, done by a 3M certified installer. The discoloration risk was never mentioned to me and I don't recall receiving any care literature with it either. I'll have to double-check.
IIRC 3M has a 5 year warranty against yellowing, cracking, etc.? Check with your installer.
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