Rack and Pinion repair
12-09-06, 07:13 AM
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Rack and Pinion repair
Hi Everyone,
Busted the rack and pinion on my poor baby, 06 IS 250 AWD. My car hit the cement casing around the light pole at the dealership, of all places. No damage to the body. Anyhow, sadly enough, I'm told that they need to remove the engine to repair the rack and pinion. Will my car ever be the same????
So sad,
Nikki
Busted the rack and pinion on my poor baby, 06 IS 250 AWD. My car hit the cement casing around the light pole at the dealership, of all places. No damage to the body. Anyhow, sadly enough, I'm told that they need to remove the engine to repair the rack and pinion. Will my car ever be the same????
So sad,
Nikki
12-09-06, 07:16 AM
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Whoa!! That's crazy!! It probably will be fine I wouldn't worry too much.. well only worry if it doesn't steer right when you get it back! Is your ins paying for it??? Sorry to hear!
12-09-06, 07:19 AM
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Yes, thankfully, my insurance is paying for it. $3000 part and $3000 in labor. I've been without my car for nearly 2 weeks already. I'm driving a PONTIAC. Life can't get much worse!
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12-09-06, 09:17 AM
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Less than 1 mph? C'mon...what, did you push the car into the concrete around the post? If you snapped the rack and pinion, you HAD to have been going faster than that. People routinely hit wheel stops in parking spaces faster than that, with no ill effects.
12-09-06, 09:34 AM
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Not even kidding. I took my foot off the break to advance forward. Not kidding. I was moving my car from a parked position. The porter parked my car there. I could see the light pole but couldn't see the cement casing around the pole that surrounded the tall light. As you can imagine, I can't even believe that this happened since I was not even really moving the car.
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Not even kidding. I took my foot off the break to advance forward. Not kidding. I was moving my car from a parked position. The porter parked my car there. I could see the light pole but couldn't see the cement casing around the pole that surrounded the tall light. As you can imagine, I can't even believe that this happened since I was not even really moving the car.
But rack and pinion steering? Excuse my car ignorance, but i thought our steering was electronic with hydrolics turning the wheels?
12-09-06, 11:11 AM
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12-09-06, 01:59 PM
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Okay...to get back to my original question...will my car operate the same after it's been pulled apart to fix the steering? I just can't believe the engine has to be removed to do this. But that's what the Lexus Dealership is telling me. Interestingly enough, they've never had to do this repair before.
12-10-06, 10:41 AM
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The service manual says you must pull the engine to do this. It may not be necessary, but that's the only way they are authorised to do the job.
FWIW, the Scion tC manual says you have to drop the entire front subframe to do a clutch/flywheel change on it. I've done 7 of them now, and I don't even touch the subframe bolts. They also claim it is not possible to remove the lower oil pan on a TT Supra without pulling the engine, but I know that's not true either.
It might very well be possible to remove the rack without removing the engine, but the tech data Lexus uses requires they do it this way. Sadly, the 2WD version does not require anything difficult. Remove the ends, disconnect the column shaft, disconnect the electrics, and remove four bolts. Game over.
FWIW, the Scion tC manual says you have to drop the entire front subframe to do a clutch/flywheel change on it. I've done 7 of them now, and I don't even touch the subframe bolts. They also claim it is not possible to remove the lower oil pan on a TT Supra without pulling the engine, but I know that's not true either.
It might very well be possible to remove the rack without removing the engine, but the tech data Lexus uses requires they do it this way. Sadly, the 2WD version does not require anything difficult. Remove the ends, disconnect the column shaft, disconnect the electrics, and remove four bolts. Game over.
12-11-06, 05:06 AM
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