Will the ES300h get Lithium Batteries?
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Will the ES300h get Lithium Batteries?
Looking to buy the ES300h in the next year or two, but prefer Lithium batteries in hybrids. Are there any indications Lexus will use them in the 2014 model year? 2015?
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http://green.autoblog.com/2013/03/12...-than-lithium/
You probably won't see Lithium Ion in Lexus vehicles in the near future since it looks like Toyota is limiting use to plug-in EVs. Sounds like they are still in development of their next generation battery which uses solid state and Li-Air. 7 more years :P
You probably won't see Lithium Ion in Lexus vehicles in the near future since it looks like Toyota is limiting use to plug-in EVs. Sounds like they are still in development of their next generation battery which uses solid state and Li-Air. 7 more years :P
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Highly unlikely. Not only that but Hyundai, Nissan/Inifniit, Mercedes uses them and their MPG is worse or not better than the Toyota/Lexus system.
Toyota has invested heavily in their current technology so they will use it wisely before jumping to something else.
Toyota has invested heavily in their current technology so they will use it wisely before jumping to something else.
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The second gen Ford Fusion Hybrid now uses Li-Ion batteries - and the vehicle arguably achieves worse MPG than the outgoing version that used conventional battery technology. It is now, along with the C-Max, embroiled in a borderline scandal as the EPA ratings of 47/47/47 are all but impossible to achieve. This is the singular reason my choice of new vehicle was a '13 ES300h to replace my 2010 Fusion Hybrid.
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The second gen Ford Fusion Hybrid now uses Li-Ion batteries - and the vehicle arguably achieves worse MPG than the outgoing version that used conventional battery technology. It is now, along with the C-Max, embroiled in a borderline scandal as the EPA ratings of 47/47/47 are all but impossible to achieve. This is the singular reason my choice of new vehicle was a '13 ES300h to replace my 2010 Fusion Hybrid.
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Huh? Newer design non-plugin hybrid vehicles made by Toyota that are sold in the U.S. and Canada with Nickel-Metal Hydride battery packs are sold in most of the rest of the world with Lithium Ion batteries. For example, my wife's 2012 Toyota Prius v wagon has a Nickel-Metal Hydride battery pack. The identical looking Prius+ sold in Europe and the U.K. has a Lithium Ion battery pack.
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Huh? Newer design non-plugin hybrid vehicles made by Toyota that are sold in the U.S. and Canada with Nickel-Metal Hydride battery packs are sold in most of the rest of the world with Lithium Ion batteries. For example, my wife's 2012 Toyota Prius v wagon has a Nickel-Metal Hydride battery pack. The identical looking Prius+ sold in Europe and the U.K. has a Lithium Ion battery pack.
http://www.toyota.co.uk/bv/leads/pdfFiles/rc46362.pdf
The Prius Plug-In does however use a Lithium Ion battery.
I also looked at the UK Lexus site and checked the CT, they also use a Nickel-Metal Hydride Battery.
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I looked at the UK Prius Brochure and it states they use a Nickel-Metal Hydride Battery.
http://www.toyota.co.uk/bv/leads/pdfFiles/rc46362.pdf
The Prius Plug-In does however use a Lithium Ion battery.
I also looked at the UK Lexus site and checked the CT, they also use a Nickel-Metal Hydride Battery.
http://www.toyota.co.uk/bv/leads/pdfFiles/rc46362.pdf
The Prius Plug-In does however use a Lithium Ion battery.
I also looked at the UK Lexus site and checked the CT, they also use a Nickel-Metal Hydride Battery.
More information about this difference can be found on http://priuschat.com/
Last edited by Kansas; Apr 3, 2013 at 06:50 PM.
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Interesting because what I've read says Toyota has only 2 models with lithium ion batteries and is moving away from them all together. Do a Google search on lithium ion battery and Toyota.
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/03/12...-than-lithium/
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/03/12...-than-lithium/
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Interesting because what I've read says Toyota has only 2 models with lithium ion batteries and is moving away from them all together. Do a Google search on lithium ion battery and Toyota.
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/03/12...-than-lithium/
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/03/12...-than-lithium/
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That is true for vehicles Toyota sells in North America but not necessarily for the U.K., Europe and other parts of the world: http://kaizenfactor.wordpress.com/20...agon-in-japan/