Hybrid Issues?
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Please add year and milage to get more apt responses, that is if you have narrowed down to a particular vehicle.
Also read up on the differences between the hybrid and non-hybrid. Since you are not buying new, the rebates would not apply [they can be a good reason to purchase the hybrid]. Also read up on Lexus Hybrid design approach. If you were to ask me to only make one statement
Hybrids shine in stop and go.
If that does not apply, I would suggest buy the non-hybrid.
Salim
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It was a typo on my end, I was referring to the 450h. I currently have the RX350 and considering moving into a new 450h. Just concerned about issues with a hybrid. Any additional feedback is appreciated.
Thank you
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You have a what year RX350? and what year RX450h do you want to buy?
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Hybrid is gasoline and electric and 350 is just gasoline. Be aware that if the hybrid dies/not-working and even if the ice is working the vehicle is dead. You can not leave the hybrid garaged [not driven] for more than 3 weeks [estimate] at a stretch.
Hybrid is excellent in stop and go traffic. If you are cruising at 55 or higher the gas engine is running the vehicle.
Concerns about hybrid battery are some what over discussed but should last 10-12 years.
Ask a specific question and we can try to answer.
Salim
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Please list items that are important to you. Currently you have left it open ended and it needs to be narrowed down.
Hybrid is gasoline and electric and 350 is just gasoline. Be aware that if the hybrid dies/not-working and even if the ice is working the vehicle is dead. You can not leave the hybrid garaged [not driven] for more than 3 weeks [estimate] at a stretch.
Hybrid is excellent in stop and go traffic. If you are cruising at 55 or higher the gas engine is running the vehicle.
Concerns about hybrid battery are some what over discussed but should last 10-12 years.
Ask a specific question and we can try to answer.
Salim
Hybrid is gasoline and electric and 350 is just gasoline. Be aware that if the hybrid dies/not-working and even if the ice is working the vehicle is dead. You can not leave the hybrid garaged [not driven] for more than 3 weeks [estimate] at a stretch.
Hybrid is excellent in stop and go traffic. If you are cruising at 55 or higher the gas engine is running the vehicle.
Concerns about hybrid battery are some what over discussed but should last 10-12 years.
Ask a specific question and we can try to answer.
Salim
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Just some additional thoughts on how long you can leave a hybrid. It is generally recommend it you are looking for short (3 +months ) to much longer storage, a hybrid is probably not your best choice. 3 weeks for the HV is probably ok, if left in a 50% charge level.
On the HV battery, the Li-Ion have much lower self-discharge vs the NiMh HV battery, so a Li-Ion would be a less risk in general. But as noted, if you go into a low charge state, you risk even damaging the battery beyond getting the tow and the dealer to recharge it. You just don't want to go there.
On the 12v battery, a smart battery maintained is absolutely needed with the higher drain on new cars. Even 3 weeks might be dicy depending the storage conditions. However, even if you discharge the 12vbattery beyond repair or a jump charge, it is low cost compared to the HV battery to just replace.
On the HV battery, the Li-Ion have much lower self-discharge vs the NiMh HV battery, so a Li-Ion would be a less risk in general. But as noted, if you go into a low charge state, you risk even damaging the battery beyond getting the tow and the dealer to recharge it. You just don't want to go there.
On the 12v battery, a smart battery maintained is absolutely needed with the higher drain on new cars. Even 3 weeks might be dicy depending the storage conditions. However, even if you discharge the 12vbattery beyond repair or a jump charge, it is low cost compared to the HV battery to just replace.
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Just some additional thoughts on how long you can leave a hybrid. It is generally recommend it you are looking for short (3 +months ) to much longer storage, a hybrid is probably not your best choice. 3 weeks for the HV is probably ok, if left in a 50% charge level.
On the HV battery, the Li-Ion have much lower self-discharge vs the NiMh HV battery, so a Li-Ion would be a less risk in general. But as noted, if you go into a low charge state, you risk even damaging the battery beyond getting the tow and the dealer to recharge it. You just don't want to go there.
On the 12v battery, a smart battery maintained is absolutely needed with the higher drain on new cars. Even 3 weeks might be dicy depending the storage conditions. However, even if you discharge the 12vbattery beyond repair or a jump charge, it is low cost compared to the HV battery to just replace.
On the HV battery, the Li-Ion have much lower self-discharge vs the NiMh HV battery, so a Li-Ion would be a less risk in general. But as noted, if you go into a low charge state, you risk even damaging the battery beyond getting the tow and the dealer to recharge it. You just don't want to go there.
On the 12v battery, a smart battery maintained is absolutely needed with the higher drain on new cars. Even 3 weeks might be dicy depending the storage conditions. However, even if you discharge the 12vbattery beyond repair or a jump charge, it is low cost compared to the HV battery to just replace.
I bought a remote starter off aliexpress and they gave me an instruction guide to install it on the 300H. Basically there's 1 extra wire you need to tap into for the hybrid. If you really want me to dig out the instructions I can, but it'll take some effort so let me know.
I never ended up installing it because I was getting clausterphopic hanging upside down in my car trying to get the plastic connector undone from under the steering wheel area. Maybe one day i'll give it another whirl.
BTW I'm in the same situation on my 2020 300H. No remote start on key fob since they were trying to sell subscriptions.
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