Tint - Questions/Comments/Concerns
#62
I'm going to get around 55% on the back windows. After driving for awhile the front 18% is just a bit darker than the factory back and I'd like to add some additional uv protection in the back.
We metered my CXP18 up front and it was actually 14%.
We metered my CXP18 up front and it was actually 14%.
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raiders3 (04-03-23)
#64
Super Moderator
I think basically all windshields protect.. not sure about the side windows.
#66
Interesting read here...
AUTOBLOG STAFFLast Updated: Jan 5th 2017 at 11:15AM
Car windows are designed to protect you in an accident. But they won't necessarily protect you from the sun. Automotive glass must meet a host of government standards in the U.S. and elsewhere. It has to let in the maximum amount of light to help drivers see, and it has to shatter into tiny pieces instead of shards that could – and probably would – injure occupants in a crash. But there are no requirements for sun protection. That can vary by vehicle, and even by window within a vehicle.
Windshields offer the most sun protection, according to an executive at Pittsburgh Glass Works in Pennsylvania. His company supplies glass to nearly every major automaker, including Toyota, Mercedes-Benz, General Motors, BMW and Hyundai. By law, windshields must be made of laminated glass, which means they're formed from three parts: two 2.1-millimeter layers of glass separated by a 0.8-millimeter piece of stretchy plastic. The glass is made to break easily if something – the driver's head, for example, or a deer – comes in contact with it. The plastic then stretches to absorb that impact.
The layer of plastic helps windshields absorb nearly all of the sun's ultraviolet rays. Plastic is naturally good at absorbing UV rays, and can be made with extra UV absorbers to protect even more. The Pittsburgh Glass Works exec says windshields absorb 100 percent of UVB rays (which cause sunburn), and around 98 percent of UVA rays. Those UVA rays don't cause sunburn but can do long-term damage to the skin. That built-in protection gives windshields a sun protection factor - or SPF - of 50 or more, the equivalent of some of the strongest sunscreens.
Sunroofs, too, often contain UV-absorbing technology that can block around 90 percent of UV rays. That's partly to keep the car cool as well as protect occupants from sun exposure. But side and rear windows are a different story, and their SPF can vary a lot depending on the vehicle.
Side windows are usually made from cheaper tempered glass, which is around 4 millimeters thick and doesn't include a layer of plastic. Tempered glass is designed to shatter into tiny pieces in order to protect the occupants in a crash. But unless they're tinted for privacy, side windows usually absorb only 65 percent of UV rays. That gives them an SPF of around 16, the same as some of the lowest grades of sunscreen. That may be all right for people who don't do a lot of driving. But several studies indicate a link between skin cancer and sun exposure while driving, especially for truck drivers or those with long commutes.
In 2007, researchers at the St. Louis University School of Medicine found that in a group of 898 skin cancer patients, 53 percent of the cancers occurred on the left side. Those who spent more hours per week driving had a higher chance of getting a left-side skin cancer. Also, a statistically significant number of the cancers were on areas that are exposed while driving, including the head, neck, arms and hands.
Some automakers are opting for more expensive, higher-SPF glass, not only to protect the car's occupants but also to cool down their cars. Heat from the sun can force the car's air conditioning to work harder, which lowers the vehicle's fuel economy. South Korean automakers Hyundai and Kia use window glass with an SPF between 44 and 48 in those vehicles they assemble in the U.S. And Toyota switched to laminated glass for the front windows of the Avalon sedan, both to improve UV protection and to offer added insulation from wind noise.
Concerned about the level of sun exposure in your car? Here's what you can do:
Seek out vehicles with more protection. Glass makers have a trade group - the Enhanced Protective Glass Automotive Association - that lobbies for stricter rules that would require laminated glass in all car windows. The group keeps tabs on which cars have laminated windows and publishes the results. The Ford Mustang, for example, has offered a laminated glass sunroof, while several Buick and Mercedes sedans have laminated glass in the front windows.
Also, explore window tinting and aftermarket films. Companies like Solar Gard offer window films that can block UV rays. Glass-tinting companies and auto dealers can install them on a 4-door car for around $200. There are also do-it-yourself kits at auto parts shops. But beware: States govern how much windows can be tinted, and those laws vary.
https://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/06/...ainst-uv-rays/
AUTOBLOG STAFFLast Updated: Jan 5th 2017 at 11:15AM
Not All Car Windows Protect Against UV Rays
Protection can vary by vehicle, and even by window within a vehicle
Car windows are designed to protect you in an accident. But they won't necessarily protect you from the sun. Automotive glass must meet a host of government standards in the U.S. and elsewhere. It has to let in the maximum amount of light to help drivers see, and it has to shatter into tiny pieces instead of shards that could – and probably would – injure occupants in a crash. But there are no requirements for sun protection. That can vary by vehicle, and even by window within a vehicle.
Windshields offer the most sun protection, according to an executive at Pittsburgh Glass Works in Pennsylvania. His company supplies glass to nearly every major automaker, including Toyota, Mercedes-Benz, General Motors, BMW and Hyundai. By law, windshields must be made of laminated glass, which means they're formed from three parts: two 2.1-millimeter layers of glass separated by a 0.8-millimeter piece of stretchy plastic. The glass is made to break easily if something – the driver's head, for example, or a deer – comes in contact with it. The plastic then stretches to absorb that impact.
The layer of plastic helps windshields absorb nearly all of the sun's ultraviolet rays. Plastic is naturally good at absorbing UV rays, and can be made with extra UV absorbers to protect even more. The Pittsburgh Glass Works exec says windshields absorb 100 percent of UVB rays (which cause sunburn), and around 98 percent of UVA rays. Those UVA rays don't cause sunburn but can do long-term damage to the skin. That built-in protection gives windshields a sun protection factor - or SPF - of 50 or more, the equivalent of some of the strongest sunscreens.
Sunroofs, too, often contain UV-absorbing technology that can block around 90 percent of UV rays. That's partly to keep the car cool as well as protect occupants from sun exposure. But side and rear windows are a different story, and their SPF can vary a lot depending on the vehicle.
Side windows are usually made from cheaper tempered glass, which is around 4 millimeters thick and doesn't include a layer of plastic. Tempered glass is designed to shatter into tiny pieces in order to protect the occupants in a crash. But unless they're tinted for privacy, side windows usually absorb only 65 percent of UV rays. That gives them an SPF of around 16, the same as some of the lowest grades of sunscreen. That may be all right for people who don't do a lot of driving. But several studies indicate a link between skin cancer and sun exposure while driving, especially for truck drivers or those with long commutes.
In 2007, researchers at the St. Louis University School of Medicine found that in a group of 898 skin cancer patients, 53 percent of the cancers occurred on the left side. Those who spent more hours per week driving had a higher chance of getting a left-side skin cancer. Also, a statistically significant number of the cancers were on areas that are exposed while driving, including the head, neck, arms and hands.
Some automakers are opting for more expensive, higher-SPF glass, not only to protect the car's occupants but also to cool down their cars. Heat from the sun can force the car's air conditioning to work harder, which lowers the vehicle's fuel economy. South Korean automakers Hyundai and Kia use window glass with an SPF between 44 and 48 in those vehicles they assemble in the U.S. And Toyota switched to laminated glass for the front windows of the Avalon sedan, both to improve UV protection and to offer added insulation from wind noise.
Concerned about the level of sun exposure in your car? Here's what you can do:
Seek out vehicles with more protection. Glass makers have a trade group - the Enhanced Protective Glass Automotive Association - that lobbies for stricter rules that would require laminated glass in all car windows. The group keeps tabs on which cars have laminated windows and publishes the results. The Ford Mustang, for example, has offered a laminated glass sunroof, while several Buick and Mercedes sedans have laminated glass in the front windows.
Also, explore window tinting and aftermarket films. Companies like Solar Gard offer window films that can block UV rays. Glass-tinting companies and auto dealers can install them on a 4-door car for around $200. There are also do-it-yourself kits at auto parts shops. But beware: States govern how much windows can be tinted, and those laws vary.
https://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/06/...ainst-uv-rays/
#68
What does this mean, I get the DOT safety stamp but what are the symbols illustrating.
#69
The front windows actually have around a 78% tint built in. I added 18% to my factory front windows (and 35% on the rear) and the fronts metered at 14%.
Also, fronts are etched UV, rears are not. You'd definitely benefit from aftermarket film on the rear windows if you want UV protection for your passengers or leather.
Also, fronts are etched UV, rears are not. You'd definitely benefit from aftermarket film on the rear windows if you want UV protection for your passengers or leather.
#70
#72
Found this: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...rotection.html
Aftermarket tinting on our GX is probably a waste of money....
Aftermarket tinting on our GX is probably a waste of money....
“The research found Lexus cars offered the best all-round protection, with the side-windows effectively stopping between 92 and 96 per cent of UV rays.”
Yeah, that is why i did not do anything. Lexus got us covered...literally.
#73
#74
From link above:
How much protection does the UV glass provide?
UV-A is the component of sunlight that causes a tan.
UV-B is the component of sunlight that causes a sunburn.
IR is the component of sunlight that transmits heat.
Ulta-Violet (UV) Blocking
The glass of our vehicles greatly reduce UV-A and almost completely blocks UV-B. Up to 92% of UV is blocked. UV blocking both helps protect occupants and helps delay aging of the interior upholstery.
Infra-Red (IR) Blocking
The glass of our vehicles reduces IR by up to 73%. IR blocking helps reduce interior temperatures, so the occupants will be more comfortable, the AC system will have to work less hare, and as a result, the car will get better gas mileage.
#75
Instructor
The "AS" number relates to the grade of testing achieved: https://info.glass.com/decoding-car-windshield-bug/
The "E" number is the country of the EU that has approved the glass (6 refers to Belgium) http://www.carwindshields.info/windshieldmarkings
"CCC" is a Chinese approval stamp.
Here's another site with some interesting reading: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...***-codes.html
According to what I've been able to find so far, the other numbers are either other marketing region approvals or "internal" manufacturer/factory numbers.
Here is the website for the Japanese manufacture of "DOT 20" glass: http://www.agc-automotive.com/en/about-agc/
Here's what I found on my '14 ES 350:
Front windshield (obviously Chinese aftermarket and to be replaced with OEM under my insurance policy should it ever get broken...a highly likely possibility!)
Driver side window (measures 0.207" thick by calliper and obviously laminated by vision)
Rear door window: measures 0.153" thick and not laminated
Rear door quarter window
Sunroof (could not get callipers on it but not laminated)
So, there's a lot to glass codes that doesn't necessarily meet the eye. By the way, if there any glass technicians here who can correct or further explain some of these numbers, please feel free to do so. I don't profess to be an expert at all but these are just some of the things I was curious about and started digging into. Sure wish the sunroof was laminated though!!!
Last edited by Tootsall; 04-27-19 at 02:42 PM.