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Old Sep 19, 2023 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Don't wash off your rust proofing product during winter.
I think you have a good point. I guess the MTM is useless then. I would only want to use regular garden hose on a spread out setting to not "pressure" the salt off but "rinse gently". Lol. I'm a Car Care Nut myself!
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Old Sep 19, 2023 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shawngt2
I actually purchased an MTM underbody washer (linked below) with spec 40" reach. Not sure how high the pressure will be until I use it (I won't be able to verify). Hope is won't cause any issues! I'll know if the pressure is a little too much. Those automated car washes are at insane pressures.

The MTM undercarriage has 4 nozzles, so not expecting much pressure distributing through 4 nozzles at max @1800 psi. I'll pass this under when the weather lets out periodically during the winter and planning to do 2 days prior to the rust proofing procedure.

https://www.mtmhydroparts.com/produc...8fae27e0&_ss=r
If you don't have a low setting on your pressure washer maybe buy one of those cheap ones with a lower PSI just for this purpose.
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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MrTorgue
If you don't have a low setting on your pressure washer maybe buy one of those cheap ones with a lower PSI just for this purpose.
I sprayed our honda fit with surface shield last fall and actually just sprayed the engine bay with my 15deg nozzle from a fairly powerful pressure washer, and other then knocking off a bunch of road debris I am confident that 99% of the surface shield is still there.

Washing all that winter road debris crap off in a car wash is much better then letting it sit all winter imho, but of course ymmv
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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 06:13 AM
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Of all maintenance works rustproofing is the most difficult and perhaps the most important if you want to keep your vehicle long time. I started rustproofing my 2005 GX when it was 13 year old and my tundra when it was 8 year old. I used fluid film. It looks these vehicles start to have rust problems at year 8. My entire chassis was covered, doors and engine bay as well. I do it every fall. I was not successful in preventing all rust such as rust on bolts but my vehicles had solid frames. Pressure washer wash off the fluid film so it is better not to pressure wash it in winter. I agree anything is better than nothing.

Having learned from this, I rustproofed my 2022 GX when it was new. Will be able to tell if it makes a difference in about 7 years😜
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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 07:57 AM
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My 2010 is really clean underneath being a lifelong Texas vehicle before we moved to far north Idaho. Now I'm pretty much going to let it sit all winter from now on. I don't want any salt within a billion infinity miles of my GX as I plan on keeping this thing until I die. Or my wife's 2019 RAM 2500 Laramie is going to do winter duty so I gotta clean that thing up and fluid film it.
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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 10:57 AM
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Frame interior: Eastwood Internal Frame Coating Aerosol
Frame exterior and underbody: RP-342

On my 2022, I only did the second application this year so can't speak to longevity, but it's looking it will work well through the years. I plan on doing this annually.
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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 12:26 PM
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Should this be done if visiting family in say.. Colorado during winter for about a week or two ? Home is in TX, so not really concerned about rust here..
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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by m5rahul
Should this be done if visiting family in say.. Colorado during winter for about a week or two ? Home is in TX, so not really concerned about rust here..
At a minimum, give your vehicle a thorough underbody/underhood pressure wash when you get back to Texas to remove any residual salt/road debris from your trip.
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Old Sep 22, 2023 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by robd88
At a minimum, give your vehicle a thorough underbody/underhood pressure wash when you get back to Texas to remove any residual salt/road debris from your trip.
I would not think twice about little salt on your vehicle from a couple week trip. These processes are needed for vehicles to remain in these salty conditions permanently. Someone mentioned powerwashing when you get home, probably a good idea to do that regardless based on how filthy it will be after a week long road trip!
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Hello All,

First of all, Thank You for all your comments, opinions, experiences and suggestions. Tomorrow I meet with a friend and we take our woolwax and fluid film kits with spray guns, nozzel extensions and his compressor and get down and dirty! I'm planning to take photos and post here.

I'll be putting the GX up on 4 rhino ramps and planning on laying a tarp underneath, dropping the skid plates and spare tire and going from there. I will likely stick with the Car Care Nuts plan and stick to the frame (incl. inside), axles and brake lines (at least that's all I see and what he mentions in the video, it seems he wasn't there for the entire process because he only said 'frame" and referenced brake lines when the video was there). I'll have to make the call on each thing!

Wish me luck!

Cheers,
Shawn

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Old Sep 25, 2023 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jonshonda
I sprayed our honda fit with surface shield last fall and actually just sprayed the engine bay with my 15deg nozzle from a fairly powerful pressure washer, and other then knocking off a bunch of road debris I am confident that 99% of the surface shield is still there.

Washing all that winter road debris crap off in a car wash is much better then letting it sit all winter imho, but of course ymmv
I switched from Fluid Film to Surface Shield after seeing YouTube guy who tested various products about 2 years ago. He left samples by the roadside in the winter and Surface Shield stayed on better. Then the guy went to work for Surface Shield, but swore he'd remain objective. I'm always dubious of that phenomenon.

I can't say I've noticed a huge difference in the Surface Shield's resistance to being washed off over Fluid Film. But I haven't rigorously monitored or tested it. Both have worked well on preventing new rust. I'm more curious which is better for arresting rust that has already started. Since, like you, I have vehicles in both situations.

Or is this now considered like starting a debate over engine oil.
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Old Sep 25, 2023 | 06:42 AM
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^Yeah it's tough to know who or what to trust these days. This fall I will be tackling the GX, and know the Rust-oleum rust reformer is a very attractive product from an ease of application perspective (being an aerosol product vs a brush on product) but certainly does need to be protected/top coated with something as it doesn't hold up well on its own imho. I also don't like that you aren't supposed to use it on stuff that isn't rust, so I think I will be looking more towards products the convert rust, then top coat it as needed. Not sure yet.

My thought right now is to knock down as much dirt and rust as possible with the pressure washer, and I might just experiment with using the 0* nozzle to blast rust on the frame where it's safe. From there treat the rust as needed, then apply a black top coat purely for aesthetic purposes. Then apply a surface protectant as needed.
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Old Sep 25, 2023 | 07:42 AM
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Sounds like Projet Farm needs to do a comparison test video.
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Old Sep 25, 2023 | 01:11 PM
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Too much opinions are out there but I am fairly confident that anything is better than nothing. These days vehicles are less prone to rust than they were 20 years ago, paying some attention helps a lot, especially with new vehicles when rust have not started. I started rust proofing my Tundra at year 8. I cannot say it is pristine underneath but I do not worry about rusted frame at the very minimum.
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