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Old Jun 30, 2020 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcus003
lexus corporate. I opened a support case from lexus.com last week.
That's US units sold? So now can we say we have official 2016 and 2017 numbers?
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Old Sep 30, 2020 | 12:01 PM
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Hi guys - I have recently reached out to Lexus Customer Service (September 2020), and here is a the final production number count on the GS-F I got from them. TOTAL 2484 made for the US MARKET. (I asked specifically for the US market)


"We have conducted research on your behalf and have provided the production numbers for the GSF below :

2016 - 1,418
2017 – 482
2018 – 294
2019 – 163
2020 – 127

Production has ended for the 2020 model year, being the final production model year of the GS-F for the North American market.
If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us. We are glad to help at any time.

Sincerely,

Elizabeth O.
Lexus Guest Experience Center"
Old Sep 30, 2020 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ZFreak
Hi guys - I have recently reached out to Lexus Customer Service (September 2020), and here is a the final production number count on the GS-F I got from them. TOTAL 2484 made for the US MARKET. (I asked specifically for the US market)


"We have conducted research on your behalf and have provided the production numbers for the GSF below :

2016 - 1,418
2017 – 482
2018 – 294
2019 – 163
2020 – 127

Production has ended for the 2020 model year, being the final production model year of the GS-F for the North American market.
If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us. We are glad to help at any time.

Sincerely,

Elizabeth O.
Lexus Guest Experience Center"

It would be nice to see break downs of exterior / interior color too.
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Old Sep 30, 2020 | 11:20 PM
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Apparently you can figure out the GS F production numbers by simply plugging in numbers on drivers.lexus.com. I did that for fun (but ran out of time to complete tallying up the numbers) and here's what I found:

All GS F models seem to have the same first portion of the VIN: JTHBP1BL

Some 2018 were JA series cars. It looks like all 2019s were KA series cars and all 2020s were LA series cars. Each series could be preceded by a number from 1 through 9. Oddly, some of the 2016 GS Fs produced in 2015 carried letter "X" before the GA designation.

2016 model year: GA series cars (the earliest VIN number I found had the ending four digits of 0200)
2017 model year: HA series cars (I am too lazy to plug in all the numbers but you get the idea)
2018 model year: JA series cars with VIN ending 2581 to 2688 (107 units)

I am not sure what happened to the VINs with numbers ending 2689 through 2870, as Lexus might have used another alphabet in place of J to code these cars or skipped a few numbers here and there.

2019 model year: KA series cars with VIN ending 2871 to 3040 (169 units)
2020 model year: LA series cars with VIN ending 3041 to 3252 (211 units)

It looks like the 3252 car is the last GS F that rolled out of the assembly line, as there's no 3253 or newer number that's currently in the database. And the production of the GS line has already ended.

I know for sure that the Canadian models have the same VIN arrangement as the U.S. models. Not sure about the rest of the world though someone can probably look it up if needed.

Hope this helps.

Jon

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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ZFreak
Hi guys - I have recently reached out to Lexus Customer Service (September 2020), and here is a the final production number count on the GS-F I got from them. TOTAL 2484 made for the US MARKET. (I asked specifically for the US market)


"We have conducted research on your behalf and have provided the production numbers for the GSF below :

2016 - 1,418
2017 – 482
2018 – 294
2019 – 163
2020 – 127

Production has ended for the 2020 model year, being the final production model year of the GS-F for the North American market.
If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us. We are glad to help at any time.

Sincerely,

Elizabeth O.
Lexus Guest Experience Center"
Thanks for doing the research and sharing, ZFreak! I feel even better now about my 2017 purchase
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 08:51 AM
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Nice research BabyM3. I can confirm that my 2019 vin fits the outline. Pretty much smack in the middle of the production run.

It's sad to see the GS line end. I have owned both the 350 and the F. Both great cars, especially the F of course. It just didn't sell. Probably due to the 350 being underpowered. I loved the comfort level and handling.
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 11:55 AM
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Thank you!

I think certain Japanese manufacturers tend to produce, or shall I say, we as American shoppers tend to overlook certain Japanese cars until years after they're discontinued: "Shoot! Why didn't I buy one back then?"

Real life examples are the likes of the Acura NSX, Toyota Supra, and Lexus' own IS F. If you look at the contemporary reviews for these cars, you won't find any clues as to why they're fit to survive in the market at that time. Unfavorable comments from the journalists back then, didn't help either.

What remains true though, is that 99% of the European counterparts from the same era have either broken down or suffered massively in terms of their resale value.

So yes. I don't care it takes my GS F more than a second later to go from 0-60mph than an E63 or M5 when I already know that it will be worth 2-3 times more than the comparable AMG or M cars in its class ten years from now. And this is coming from a die hard BMW fan who's owned various BMWs since the mid-90s.

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Nice research BabyM3. I can confirm that my 2019 vin fits the outline. Pretty much smack in the middle of the production run.

It's sad to see the GS line end. I have owned both the 350 and the F. Both great cars, especially the F of course. It just didn't sell. Probably due to the 350 being underpowered. I loved the comfort level and handling.

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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby ///M3
Apparently you can figure out the GS F production numbers by simply plugging in numbers on drivers.lexus.com. I did that for fun (but ran out of time to complete tallying up the numbers) and here's what I found:

All GS F models seem to have the same first portion of the VIN: JTHBP1BL

Some 2018 were JA series cars. It looks like all 2019s were KA series cars and all 2020s were LA series cars. Each series could be preceded by a number from 1 through 9. Oddly, some of the 2016 GS Fs produced in 2015 carried letter "X" before the GA designation.

2016 model year: GA series cars (the earliest VIN number I found had the ending four digits of 0200)
2017 model year: HA series cars (I am too lazy to plug in all the numbers but you get the idea)
2018 model year: JA series cars with VIN ending 2581 to 2688 (107 units)

I am not sure what happened to the VINs with numbers ending 2689 through 2870, as Lexus might have used another alphabet in place of J to code these cars or skipped a few numbers here and there.

2019 model year: KA series cars with VIN ending 2871 to 3040 (169 units)
2020 model year: LA series cars with VIN ending 3041 to 3252 (211 units)

It looks like the 3252 car is the last GS F that rolled out of the assembly line, as there's no 3253 or newer number that's currently in the database. And the production of the GS line has already ended.

I know for sure that the Canadian models have the same VIN arrangement as the U.S. models. Not sure about the rest of the world though someone can probably look it up if needed.

Hope this helps.

Jon
I thought there was a list of VINs somewhere here but I can't find it. Mine is JTHBP1BL5GA000256 (2015 manufacture date)
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Baby ///M3
Apparently you can figure out the GS F production numbers by simply plugging in numbers on drivers.lexus.com. I did that for fun (but ran out of time to complete tallying up the numbers) and here's what I found:

All GS F models seem to have the same first portion of the VIN: JTHBP1BL

Some 2018 were JA series cars. It looks like all 2019s were KA series cars and all 2020s were LA series cars. Each series could be preceded by a number from 1 through 9. Oddly, some of the 2016 GS Fs produced in 2015 carried letter "X" before the GA designation.

2016 model year: GA series cars (the earliest VIN number I found had the ending four digits of 0200)
2017 model year: HA series cars (I am too lazy to plug in all the numbers but you get the idea)
2018 model year: JA series cars with VIN ending 2581 to 2688 (107 units)

I am not sure what happened to the VINs with numbers ending 2689 through 2870, as Lexus might have used another alphabet in place of J to code these cars or skipped a few numbers here and there.

2019 model year: KA series cars with VIN ending 2871 to 3040 (169 units)
2020 model year: LA series cars with VIN ending 3041 to 3252 (211 units)

It looks like the 3252 car is the last GS F that rolled out of the assembly line, as there's no 3253 or newer number that's currently in the database. And the production of the GS line has already ended.

I know for sure that the Canadian models have the same VIN arrangement as the U.S. models. Not sure about the rest of the world though someone can probably look it up if needed.

Hope this helps.

Jon
Just to expound a bit -

The 9th digit of any VIN is a so-called "check digit." It is essentially a security feature and consists of any 1 of 10 characters (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, or X).

The 10th digit designates the model year: G for 2016; H for 2017; J for 2018; K for 2019; and L for 2020.

The 11th digit denominates the assembly plant.

The 12th through 17th digits are sequential production numbers.

If 2484 GS F cars were built for U.S. sale while the sequential numbers run through 32xx, it suggests the latter number is total production.
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 11:17 AM
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Thank you for the information! It really helps.

Does it mean that Lexus uses the same methodology to designate all GS Fs regardless of which market it was exported to?

For some reason, I was unable to locate a car with ending VIN numbers 0199 or earlier, which makes me wonder whether Lexus might have started the serial number at 0200 for the 2016 model. If so, then the total production number for GS Fs would not have exceeded 3,052 (03252 - 00200 = 3,052)

Also, I randomly picked a set of digits 02695, which should have been a HA or KA series car but was not found in the database. I am sure there may be more examples so I wonder if Lexus might have also skipped some numbers here and there. That would make the total production number even fewer than 3,052.

Jon

Originally Posted by TriC
Just to expound a bit -

The 9th digit of any VIN is a so-called "check digit." It is essentially a security feature and consists of any 1 of 10 characters (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, or X).

The 10th digit designates the model year: G for 2016; H for 2017; J for 2018; K for 2019; and L for 2020.

The 11th digit denominates the assembly plant.

The 12th through 17th digits are sequential production numbers.

If 2484 GS F cars were built for U.S. sale while the sequential numbers run through 32xx, it suggests the latter number is total production.

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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 11:42 AM
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The sequential production number probably encompasses all markets.

While it is possible that the sequential numbering started after 000200, it is extremely unlikely - very low numbered cars may have been pre-production units while later ones were destined for Japan, Europe, or other markets. And it makes sense that about three-quarters of production (2484 out of 32xx) would be sold in the U.S., does it not?

Example: I live in Central Ohio, not far from the Honda assembly plant, and once looked at a local used 2006 Ridgeline for sale privately that was the 7th ever built as evidenced by its VIN ending in 00007. The owner was a Honda employee and the vehicle had a few differences from regular production units sold to the public.

Likewise, it is extremely unlikely that any sequential production numbers were skipped.

The information available at the Lexus driver website encompasses only vehicles sold in the continental U.S. (not sure about Alaska, but does not have those in Hawaii).

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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TriC
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If 2484 GS F cars were built for U.S. sale while the sequential numbers run through 32xx, it suggests the latter number is total production.
We went through the same process when we figured out the Global IS F production numbers..

The GS F was and is a very limited production Lexus that had a good 5 selling year run.

I ran a recent sample and agree the US vins include the global other units produced..
Here are a few 2020's I found easily.

- JTHBP1BL0LA003043 - used
- JTHBP1BL0LA003138 - new
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JTHBP1BL2LA003187 - new
- JTHBP1BL2LA003206 - new

I also found a couple Europe 2016 RHD GS F with VINs

- JTHBP1BL5GA000145
- JTHBP1BL5GA000199



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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 05:23 PM
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Mine was produced in 03/20 and is JTHBP1BL5LA003202.
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Old Oct 4, 2020 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DJFrakis
Mine was produced in 03/20 and is JTHBP1BL5LA003202.
Division: LEXUS Model: GS F Grade: NONE Model Year: 2020
Drive Type: 2WD Body Type: 4Dr. Sedan Engine Family: V8 - 2UR-GSE Engine No: 2UR 2086001
Date of First Use: 08/22/2020 Production Date: 03/20/2020 Plant Code: 1 - JAPAN - TMC Transmission: 8AT
VIN: JTH-BP1BL-5LA003202 Dest: USA
Standard Equipment: Exterior Color: 0223, CAVIAR Interior Color: LA03, WHITE(3K CARBON)
Interior Trim Color: LA, LEATHER Interior Fabric: *, *
Accessories:
2T: ALL WEATHER FLOOR LINERS DF: DOOR EDGE FILM BY 3M EF: REAR BUMPER APPLIQUE GF: Color Head Up Display GN: CARGO NET KG: KEY GLOVES LM: CARPET TRUNK MAT ML: Mark Levinson Premium Surround Sound Audio N3: No Car Wash SE: Blue Brembo Brake Calipers WL: ALLOY WHEEL LOCKS Z2: TRUNK MAT/CARGO NET/WHL LOCKS

Your car was only 5 months from production to in service date. Pretty good for one of these.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer

Your car was only 5 months from production to in service date. Pretty good for one of these.
Yeah, I saw that it was available and called my dealer as soon as I was within 6 months of my GS350’s lease end. Apparently, mine was one of the ones that sat in the main showroom next to the Finance Managers (who knows if they rotate them out — maybe it was never outside).

Anyways, at that time, there was mine and two other GS F’s at a dealership near Ft. Lauderdale (Atomic Silver/Circuit or Ultra White/Circuit). Still glad I decided to grab it when I did. I’d be interested in seeing how many of the 2020’s have the white interior.
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