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Old Jun 17, 2020 | 03:50 PM
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I've noticed that my car randomly get long black scratch marks on the doors and bumpers and I don't know what's causing it. These are not real scratches, more like stains that look like scratches cause I can't feel it with my fingernail but it doesn't come off with a wash and wipe and I have to use Meguiar's Scratch X to get rid of it. I don't run my car through an automatic wash and I always cleaned it properly, meaning that there are no marks at all after every wash so this must be happening when driving. Could it be road dust and debris? Cause it always appears in the lower half section of the car body (lower section of the bumpers and doors).

I've never noticed it before with silver cars but my previous RCs were white and I saw the same thing. Anyone else notice this on their white cars?
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Old Jun 17, 2020 | 03:57 PM
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Any pics ?
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Old Jun 17, 2020 | 04:03 PM
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I do have some random black mark as well and its not scratch (thanks godl!)

I think white car is more prompt to show more on black marks compared to silver car

Maybe because the contrast of black and white
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Interesting. I didn't notice that on my new 2020 yet.
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I've noticed that my car randomly get long black scratch marks on the doors and bumpers and I don't know what's causing it. These are not real scratches, more like stains that look like scratches cause I can't feel it with my fingernail but it doesn't come off with a wash and wipe and I have to use Meguiar's Scratch X to get rid of it. I don't run my car through an automatic wash and I always cleaned it properly, meaning that there are no marks at all after every wash so this must be happening when driving. Could it be road dust and debris? Cause it always appears in the lower half section of the car body (lower section of the bumpers and doors).

I've never noticed it before with silver cars but my previous RCs were white and I saw the same thing. Anyone else notice this on their white cars?
If I remember correctly, Scratch X is an aggressive compound... I would use something gentler, like Meg's 3 in 1 or Cleaner Wax. I used the Cleaner Wax for 20 years, twice a year on my cars and it protected the paint and true to it's name, cleaned off those smears, road grime and scuffs from shopping carts, very easily. Now I have a nice car again, I upped my detailing game, but still tout the quality, versatility and usefulness of good ole Meg's Cleaner Wax.
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Old Jun 17, 2020 | 05:10 PM
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Do we need to wax it if we park inside the garage?

I was thinking about PPF (Paint protection film) for the hood but I found out it's pretty expensive. Not sure anyone has done this themselves.
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Is your car subject to the Toyota white paint defect?
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I always use the Mequiar's quick spray wax after every wash and even Scratch X had a hard time getting rid of it. I use the Carnauba wax twice a year after claying.
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Originally Posted by ItzFilyO
I always use the Mequiar's quick spray wax after every wash and even Scratch X had a hard time getting rid of it. I use the Carnauba wax twice a year after claying.
What do you use to polish?

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Originally Posted by signdetres
Any pics ?
Pics would definitely help.
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Originally Posted by chinee
What do you use to polish?
I've never polished it cause I don't have a garage yet. I'll get into detailing more seriously when I have one.

Washing + Claying + Waxing at a coin-op car wash took me 3+ hours last time and I was beat. lol

I'll try to snap some pics next time.
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Originally Posted by ItzFilyO
I've never polished it cause I don't have a garage yet. I'll get into detailing more seriously when I have one.

Washing + Claying + Waxing at a coin-op car wash took me 3+ hours last time and I was beat. lol

I'll try to snap some pics next time.
Washing... removes surface dirty and grime.

Claying... removed stuck on physical contaminants that have adhered to the paint/ clear coat. Claying can scratch the paint, even when you use the lubricants.

Polishing... evens out the paint surface, removes scratches and swirls, so makes the surface shine.

Waxing/sealing... provides a barrier to protect the paint and often has gloss enhancers to shine even more.

I would recommend that you not clay the paint unless you are polishing as well. Using an all in one product such as Meguiars Cleaner Wax or 3 in 1, will remove the physical contaminants, polish the paint and leave behind a protective layer. Shines nice too.

The Meg’s Quik Wax is still my favorite spray wax and I use it on my Sequoia after every wash... and it works very well with the other Meguiars products I mentioned.

Didn’t mean to write a dissertation but once I started, I couldn’t stop myself. And it was a longer post, but I shortened it somewhat... didn’t want to overdo the hot air...lol
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 06:36 PM
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its most likely old scratches that are getting more noticeable with dirty filling it in.

yall havent seen scratches yet till u owned a black car
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There’s nothing sexier than a shiny, clean black car. Nothing!
There is nothing LESS sexy than a dusty, or dirty, or scratched, or dinged black car. Nothing!

When you’re looking for a new car, the black one will seduce you. You’ll look at that model in another color, think about being practical, but the black one will wink at you. Tip its chin. Purr, “Hey baby… I want you inside me.” Walk away NOW, or you’ll take it for a test drive. When you get into a black car for the first time, you’ll feel dangerously sexier than you ever felt in your whole life. Your inner panther will roar. You’ll tingle in places you forgot you had. You’ll like it. And, chances are - you’ll buy it. The other cars just won’t make you tingle like that. Your only protection is to never get behind the wheel of a black car in the first place. Just walk away, and life will be uncomplicated. But, you’ll always wonder…what if.

A thin film of dust becomes luminescent on a black car. Every single spot of anything, even dried sterile water, stands out like a goober zit on prom night. At first, it will disturb and upset you so much that you’ll wash your car immediately. And…then it’ll be dusty again before you even finish drying it. An unknown little fact: Black cars only stay clean for only 42 seconds. But, they are the sexiest 42 seconds you’ll ever know. Because of that 42 second rush, you’ll wash your black baby faithfully every weekend. For the first year anyway. And then, all those scratches and swirls you put in the paint taking care of your baby will erode your resolve. You’ll start skipping. People will stare at your car in disgust, and make all sorts of judgments about your sloppiness. You'll scream things at them like; 'Shut up - I just washed this damn car 15 minutes ago.' Of course, you could always buy the black car and make it a garage queen...and never drive it. That's really smart! But hey, it will still get dusty...and all scratched up by you carefully hand washing it.

If you’ve never owned a black car - you may want to admire them from afar, with someone else dealing with all that goes with owning a black car. But...maybe you're the kind of guy that is 'up for the job'. Because maybe you have loads of time and energy to deal with it. If so, you either don't have a job, or a wife, or a girlfriend (or both!), or children...or a even a life!

A scratch on a black car means only one thing - extreme sadness. Be prepared, because you will have zillions of tiny scratches all over your black beauty. You know what color the car is underneath that glossy black? White. You know what scratches black cars? Car washes. Yes, you must always wash it by hand, or that slick black paint will be gouged with zillions of little white arcs where the car wash spinners hit it. Oh, but guess what? If you even touch your paint when you hand wash it - you too will also be putting zillions of scratches in the paint. It simply cannot be helped. A scratched-up black car is not sexy. Don’t let your black car go like that. Don’t let it get all scratched up because you’re too lazy to wash it by hand either. Or, because it's too cold. Or, you don't have time. Nothing is worse looking than a black car with white swirl rainbows in the black paint that is supposed to be like a fine mirror finish. Be prepared to buy thousands of dollars worth of products and tools to keep it decent looking. Are you ready to wash/clean, strip, clay, polish and wax/coat on a regular basis? All to see it looking less than sexy again as soon as you drive it around the block.

You will park under a tree where birds are known to perch only once. It will only take you one time to park under the trees in a parking lot notorious for attracting flocks of pooping birds to learn this lesson the hard way. If the bird poop remains for more than an hour on that soft black finish the paint becomes acid etched for sure, which will add nicely to all those swirls and scratches.

Black cars aren’t just hot, they are HOT. Getting into a black car on an average summer day is like getting inside a Weber barbecue with the coals at a perfect red glow. If you like to wear shorts, get used to the smell of bacon frying. It takes longer for the A/C to put out the fire.

Other than that - enjoy that black car!

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Originally Posted by chinee
There’s nothing sexier than a shiny, clean black car. Nothing!
There is nothing LESS sexy than a dusty, or dirty, or scratched, or dinged black car. Nothing!

When you’re looking for a new car, the black one will seduce you. You’ll look at that model in another color, think about being practical, but the black one will wink at you. Tip its chin. Purr, “Hey baby… I want you inside me.” Walk away NOW, or you’ll take it for a test drive. When you get into a black car for the first time, you’ll feel dangerously sexier than you ever felt in your whole life. Your inner panther will roar. You’ll tingle in places you forgot you had. You’ll like it. And, chances are - you’ll buy it. The other cars just won’t make you tingle like that. Your only protection is to never get behind the wheel of a black car in the first place. Just walk away, and life will be uncomplicated. But, you’ll always wonder…what if.

A thin film of dust becomes luminescent on a black car. Every single spot of anything, even dried sterile water, stands out like a goober zit on prom night. At first, it will disturb and upset you so much that you’ll wash your car immediately. And…then it’ll be dusty again before you even finish drying it. An unknown little fact: Black cars only stay clean for only 42 seconds. But, they are the sexiest 42 seconds you’ll ever know. Because of that 42 second rush, you’ll wash your black baby faithfully every weekend. For the first year anyway. And then, all those scratches and swirls you put in the paint taking care of your baby will erode your resolve. You’ll start skipping. People will stare at your car in disgust, and make all sorts of judgments about your sloppiness. You'll scream things at them like; 'Shut up - I just washed this damn car 15 minutes ago.' Of course, you could always buy the black car and make it a garage queen...and never drive it. That's really smart! But hey, it will still get dusty...and all scratched up by you carefully hand washing it.

If you’ve never owned a black car - you may want to admire them from afar, with someone else dealing with all that goes with owning a black car. But...maybe you're the kind of guy that is 'up for the job'. Because maybe you have loads of time and energy to deal with it. If so, you either don't have a job, or a wife, or a girlfriend (or both!), or children...or a even a life!

A scratch on a black car means only one thing - extreme sadness. Be prepared, because you will have zillions of tiny scratches all over your black beauty. You know what color the car is underneath that glossy black? White. You know what scratches black cars? Car washes. Yes, you must always wash it by hand, or that slick black paint will be gouged with zillions of little white arcs where the car wash spinners hit it. Oh, but guess what? If you even touch your paint when you hand wash it - you too will also be putting zillions of scratches in the paint. It simply cannot be helped. A scratched-up black car is not sexy. Don’t let your black car go like that. Don’t let it get all scratched up because you’re too lazy to wash it by hand either. Or, because it's too cold. Or, you don't have time. Nothing is worse looking than a black car with white swirl rainbows in the black paint that is supposed to be like a fine mirror finish. Be prepared to buy thousands of dollars worth of products and tools to keep it decent looking. Are you ready to wash/clean, strip, clay, polish and wax/coat on a regular basis? All to see it looking less than sexy again as soon as you drive it around the block.

You will park under a tree where birds are known to perch only once. It will only take you one time to park under the trees in a parking lot notorious for attracting flocks of pooping birds to learn this lesson the hard way. If the bird poop remains for more than an hour on that soft black finish the paint becomes acid etched for sure, which will add nicely to all those swirls and scratches.

Black cars aren’t just hot, they are HOT. Getting into a black car on an average summer day is like getting inside a Weber barbecue with the coals at a perfect red glow. If you like to wear shorts, get used to the smell of bacon frying. It takes longer for the A/C to put out the fire.

Other than that - enjoy that black car!

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^^^^ The reason I got Liquid Platinum and not Obsidian.
Reason why I purchased the Ultra White. I also like the Atomic Silver but saw a very visible scratch on an used one. Both are my favorite colors btw. I can only buy one. hehe
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