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Old Aug 28, 2019 | 06:34 AM
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How often do you all find yourself replacing the front brakes on your fsports? I have a 2014 AWD Fsport. I take my car to Toyota for service and had the brakes replaced about 2000 miles ago, rotors were also resurfaced. I’m back at Toyota today because Im feeling the same vibration I felt before I had the brakes changed 2000 miles ago. I’ll admit that I’m a spirited driver at times but I don’t ride the brakes, also 90% of my driving is on the highway. What gives? Do I need to try a different brand of brakes?
The service person at Toyota is telling me that the issue has everything to do with the way I drive, but I don’t agree. What say you?
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Old Aug 28, 2019 | 07:01 AM
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How often do you all find yourself replacing the front brakes on your fsports? I have a 2014 AWD Fsport. I take my car to Toyota for service and had the brakes replaced about 2000 miles ago, rotors were also resurfaced. I’m back at Toyota today because Im feeling the same vibration I felt before I had the brakes changed 2000 miles ago. I’ll admit that I’m a spirited driver at times but I don’t ride the brakes, also 90% of my driving is on the highway. What gives? Do I need to try a different brand of brakes?
The service person at Toyota is telling me that the issue has everything to do with the way I drive, but I don’t agree. What say you?
could be alot of things, bent rims, unbalanced tires, worn suspension parts etc. is it vibration during hard braking? rather than resurfacing the rotors, you could have replaced them. i dunno what else to say on the matter
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Old Aug 28, 2019 | 07:04 AM
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, I feel the vibration during hard braking, especially when slowing down to exit the freeway.
I have brand new tires on the car so the wheels are balanced and the rims aren’t bent. I’ll have the techs look at the suspension while I’m here at Toyota.
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If you get vibration under braking you have a warped rotor. The OEM ones don't warp easily or I haven't heard a case about them warping. Did they resurface all the rotors? Are you the original owner? Do you know if the rotors they resurfaceed were oem or aftermarket? If it was warped before the resurfacing probably was a temporary fix, would have been better to replace them. I'm at 95k on stock rotors, never resurfaced. Then again I don't drive the car hard and I have a hybrid.

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I am at 75000 miles on my 17 GS 350 AWD FSport. Still on the original brakes and rotors.
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Thanks Peasodos. Pretty impressive to have a set of rotors for 95k. Maybe i drive harder than I think.
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Originally Posted by peasodos
...and I have a hybrid.
Sorry: I can't help but imagine Gerald from South Park 'Smug Alert':

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Originally Posted by HUSKERnKS
I am at 75000 miles on my 17 GS 350 AWD FSport. Still on the original brakes and rotors.
Have you inspected your pads? How much meat is left on them?

I was nearing metal at around 36K miles in the front.
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Sorry: I can't help but imagine Gerald from South Park 'Smug Alert':

Gerald from South Park 'Smug Alert'
Yeah I didn't buy it to be environmentally friendly, just for the better mpg and a quieter ride. It's something else when you come to a complete stop and hear nothing, also very quiet at low speeds.

I mentioned hybrid because the regenerative braking helps put less wear of the braking system.
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Old Aug 28, 2019 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by HUSKERnKS
I am at 75000 miles on my 17 GS 350 AWD FSport. Still on the original brakes and rotors.
75K on a car not yet 3 years old? Seems like a lot of miles in such a short time AND a lot of miles on just one set of brake pads.

Or did you mean 7,500 miles?
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Here's my experience:

I put new rear brake pads and new rotors on at 51k and just changed them out with new pads and rotors at 101k. So 50k miles on the rears. Front pads and rotors I replaced at 67k and will be changing them in the next month, currently at 104k. So my fronts seem to wear a little faster than the rears. I live in western PA where there are lots of hills, and I do drive it hard occasionally. I use Akebono ceramic pads and OEM rotors.

Based on what you are saying, I think it may be worth having the rotors replaced rather than just resurfaced. All three times I've done my brakes, any shuddering or vibrations I had noticed were eliminated until the pads got low again.

Edit: This is of course assuming you don't have a different problem with tires, suspension, etc.

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Old Aug 28, 2019 | 02:26 PM
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You get your car serviced at a Toyota instead of a Lexus?
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Originally Posted by praetor
Have you inspected your pads? How much meat is left on them?

I was nearing metal at around 36K miles in the front.
I don't have the MM in front of me, but all was still "green" from the dealer. Not even trending towards needing attention.
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Originally Posted by chinee
75K on a car not yet 3 years old? Seems like a lot of miles in such a short time AND a lot of miles on just one set of brake pads.

Or did you mean 7,500 miles?
Yep, it is a lot of miles. I drive 80 miles each way to work, each day. 160 miles a day x 5, plus other things outside of work.

All highway except 8 miles round trip.

Great for brakes and tires. :-)
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Old Aug 29, 2019 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Barkley45
How often do you all find yourself replacing the front brakes on your fsports? I have a 2014 AWD Fsport. I take my car to Toyota for service and had the brakes replaced about 2000 miles ago, rotors were also resurfaced. I’m back at Toyota today because Im feeling the same vibration I felt before I had the brakes changed 2000 miles ago. I’ll admit that I’m a spirited driver at times but I don’t ride the brakes, also 90% of my driving is on the highway. What gives? Do I need to try a different brand of brakes?
The service person at Toyota is telling me that the issue has everything to do with the way I drive, but I don’t agree. What say you?
How intense is the vibration? I know this is going to sound bizare but is it just "in the pedal" or does it actually shake the car? If it's just subtle it could also be your rears were worn out, too. This tends not to shake the car but it won't be a perfectly smooth pedal
feel.

What's the total mileage on the car? A typical GS AWD can have brakes that last from 25-50K depending on driving styles and city/highway mix etc.

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