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Old Oct 19, 2022 | 08:53 PM
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jgscott, bclexus,

Thanks for the feedback. I notice there is one relatively easier way to insert the dipstick. Even with the dipstick turned in the correct position, the dipstick still has pretty tight fit and I occasionally have some difficulty inserting the dipstick back to the tube using one hand. Recently, I would insert the dipstick using the upper finger-loop handle and use the other hand to guide it back into the tube. For all other cars I have owned, I could pull and insert the dipsticks single handily and relatively easily.

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Old Jun 20, 2024 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by joesmithf1
Hi All,

I have my 2017 Lexus for 5 months, with 5000 miles. Is there any fluids and/or oil that would be a good idea to change? I know for the BMW M4, for example, they have this first 1200 miles changes of oil and diff fluid, more like for break-in period. So just wondering if our cars needs to do something like this.

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1,200 miles is perfectly acceptable after break-in.

For my daughter, I paid for 1.5K and 3K oil changes.

Some people state that to be crazy.

Major OEM's (Original Equipment Marketers) like Toyota, are driven by the Leased Vehicle Market.

They want to attract them knowing they will not keep that vehicle beyond 36 months or so.

They love that. Another new vehicle sold every 36 months.

So, they push the 10K oil change, They know long term, 100K+, that is a mistake.

But they don't want you to keep the car for 100K, so they don't care.

This forum probably has very few Leased Vehicle owners.

Unless they're a forum on Leasing rates.

IF you bought your vehicle with the plan to "Buy and Hold", then forget what Toyota tells you about maintenance.

It simply doesn't apply to you. You're in a different market segment.






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Old Jun 23, 2024 | 08:24 PM
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There are too many variables to allow such as driving style, fuel use, environmental conditions etc etc. To be 100% certain on the health of YOUR engine is to do regular oil analysis. This will give you the FACTS and DATA you need to determine if 1000km, 5000km or 15,000km or longer OC is right for you.

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Old Jun 24, 2024 | 06:57 AM
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Stop overcomplicating things. I keep my cars a long time and by long I mean 15+ years. I have never done anything different than what the manual states. My old 2000 Camry, I change the oil once a year. I drove an average of 6K miles a year back then. My current GS350, same thing. I change the oil once a year.
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Old Jun 24, 2024 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by praetor
Stop overcomplicating things. I keep my cars a long time and by long I mean 15+ years. I have never done anything different than what the manual states. My old 2000 Camry, I change the oil once a year. I drove an average of 6K miles a year back then. My current GS350, same thing. I change the oil once a year.
Exactly what I do with my 450h. Dealer keeps hounding me to come in despite driving 4k/year.
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Old Aug 18, 2024 | 10:39 AM
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Default The Interval = Customer Base

OEM's and their Customer Base:

This forum is primarily for the "Buy and Hold" customer segment.

For obvious reasons this is NOT a focus of Toy/Lex.

Their #1 segment is the 3 year, lease owner.

Buy & Hold vs Lease.

Very different segments.

Toyota caters to the Lease owner who doesn't want much maintenance costs.

Therefore, to remain competitive, they state a 10K oil change interval. (lower maintenance costs)

At 60K, with 10K oil changes, no immediate effects will be seen.

But added wear vs a 5K or 3K change is occurring. Simple physics.

10K is a marketing driven idea.

NIssan GT-R, Lead engine - engineer, states: 2K oil changes.

People stating: "I follow the OEM's recommendation" are missing these considerations.

If you LEASE, 100%, go with a 10K change. (You don't care.)

If you OWN, be wise and follow a 2K - 5k interval.





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