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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AutoUnion
Honestly, I hope Lexus has at least even 1 FI engine in the new GS, not just the F. I saw this because both Audi and BMW have gone completely FI and Mercedes' upper end V8 is FI and all of these cars are putting out some ridiculous power numbers. For example, the Audi A6 3.0T is putting out numbers close to those of the 550i and completely trouncing the 535i, which is crazy. Some people might look at pure 0-60 times, etc and notice how the Germans are much faster.

Anyways, anyone know how light the new GS is going to be? The F10 5er is not the handler it used to be. That crown is now owned by the Audi A6. If Lexus doesn't go FI, then hopefully this car will be light enough so it matches performance numbers of the Germans.
For what it's worth, the A6 3.0T is really no faster than the N/A GS350. I am not trash talking forced induction since there is more than one way to get big power from an engine, but don't count naturally aspirated engines or Lexus out just yet. The 2GR-FSE, IMO, is still the best 6 cylinder engine in this segment and the smoothness, refinement, power numbers, performance and gas mileage all speak well to that notion. With the horsepower war becoming more and more of an arms race, I'd be surprised if Lexus didn't go FI at some point here soon, but if they continue to engineer naturally aspirated engines that can meet and beat the competition in key performance areas, then I am completely for it
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AutoUnion
Honestly, I hope Lexus has at least even 1 FI engine in the new GS, not just the F
i'd put the chances of that about the same as tiger woods re-marrying his ex-wife.
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mordecai
Does anyone else wish those flush door handles stay for the production version? You just push it in and there's a slot in the bottom to grab onto. It's quite pretty and ingenious.

Maybe we'll see it on the next generation LS.
I would definitely like to see that in the production version. The less stuff protruding out...the sleeker the car looks.
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MPLexus301
Don't forget about that rumor from a while back, I think started by someone who worked at a test track, that Toyota's F1 team was working with Yamaha on a TT V8 for Lexus. If I recall, as an employee of the facility, the guy was there watching all the testing happen and mentioned that they finally finished that phase and moved elsewhere.
I don't recall hearing that. Any links? Quite interesting that rumor though, seeing as some pics turned up recently with a tuned LS at Toyota's Motorsport facility in Germany, with a spec sheet touting a 5.0L engine and 650hp.

Originally Posted by MPLexus301
For what it's worth, the A6 3.0T is really no faster than the N/A GS350. I am not trash talking forced induction since there is more than one way to get big power from an engine, but don't count naturally aspirated engines or Lexus out just yet. The 2GR-FSE, IMO, is still the best 6 cylinder engine in this segment and the smoothness, refinement, power numbers, performance and gas mileage all speak well to that notion. With the horsepower war becoming more and more of an arms race, I'd be surprised if Lexus didn't go FI at some point here soon, but if they continue to engineer naturally aspirated engines that can meet and beat the competition in key performance areas, then I am completely for it
Agreed.
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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The "hook" door handles serve a good purpose, led by Saab a long time ago. It allows emergency crews to pull open the door instead of cutting.
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rominl
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/6529985-post1099.html

don't want to repost everything (big post), so i just do the link

Looks like this "test mule" is still running around with an un-finalized rear bumper..
The muffler has turn down exits..

The exhaust tips / diffusers should look pretty close to the concept LF-Gh version.

I can't see Lexus still utilizing the slip-on Chrome Tips for MY 2013..






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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MR_F1
I don't recall hearing that. Any links? Quite interesting that rumor though, seeing as some pics turned up recently with a tuned LS at Toyota's Motorsport facility in Germany, with a spec sheet touting a 5.0L engine and 650hp.
Yeah if that story is true it pretty much confirms that the 650hp LS TMG is indeed housing a 5.0L TT V8 , and is most likely going to be used in upcoming production vehicles. The fact that Lexus has been so eager to take those discussion threads offline pretty much confirms it.
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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I really do not want to see turbos in Lexuses, they are not very reliable.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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I really do not want to see turbos in Lexuses, they are not very reliable.
90s Toyota turbo'd engines would disagree with that
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Can't find the link...I believe it was mentioned somewhere here on CL. Searched and couldn't put my hands on it.

I'll keep my eyes peeled.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
I really do not want to see turbos in Lexuses, they are not very reliable.
not reliable? like how? the toyota supra tt will kindly disagree
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by xioix
90s Toyota turbo'd engines would disagree with that
But I guarantee all these high tech German turbos everyone is lusting after will. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near one 3 years down the line.
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Supra tt made 320hp from a 3.0 18 years ago
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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But I guarantee all these high tech German turbos everyone is lusting after will. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near one 3 years down the line.
so what, we are talking about toyota/lexus here not euros.
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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