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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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hal9000...great to see you love your car. Unfortunately with the dash rattles, loyalty to the GS will wane unless it gets fixed.

Today I would lean towards another GS after this one...assuming my needs remain the same in 9 years....so I hope they fix this. Only chance this would change is if BMW significantly improves its reliability and changes its interior design.

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Old May 13, 2009 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MelYW
hal9000...great to see you love your car. Unfortunately with the dash rattles, loyalty to the GS will wane unless it gets fixed.

Today I would lean towards another GS after this one...assuming my needs remain the same in 9 years....so I hope they fix this. Only chance this would change is if BMW significantly improves its reliability and changes its interior design.
don't discourage hal9000! dash rattles can be fixed, and it is a minor inconvenience when compared to the problems hal9000 had with his mb.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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the recent quality issues on the lexus have definitely disappointed me... until i got my bmw
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Old May 14, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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the recent quality issues on the lexus have definitely disappointed me... until i got my bmw
please explain!
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Old May 14, 2009 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
please explain!
well, 4 days into my ownership, one of the trunk latches stoppers broke.

all windows develop on and off rattling within a month of ownership. and now constantly battling with upper and lower dash rattle.

it's ok though, i didn't get this car for quality but when i get back in the lexus i do feel in a better built car, lol
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Old May 14, 2009 | 05:47 AM
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Rominl, only BMW owners can be ok with broken trunk, rattles in dash and lose window panes in a 4 day old car. I guess you guys are truely a special breed.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rominl
well, 4 days into my ownership, one of the trunk latches stoppers broke.

all windows develop on and off rattling within a month of ownership. and now constantly battling with upper and lower dash rattle.

it's ok though, i didn't get this car for quality but when i get back in the lexus i do feel in a better built car, lol
oh wow! you must be peeved for sure, only 4 days of ownership and you get all those problems?!?! i'm so glad i bought a lexus and don't have those issues that you have. i would throw a fit if that happened in my car!
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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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Rominl, only BMW owners can be ok with broken trunk, rattles in dash and lose window panes in a 4 day old car. I guess you guys are truely a special breed.
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oh wow! you must be peeved for sure, only 4 days of ownership and you get all those problems?!?! i'm so glad i bought a lexus and don't have those issues that you have. i would throw a fit if that happened in my car!
haha i think if i got a normal 3 or 5 series i'd expect more. but on the m3? it's ok, i will just rev it up higher
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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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Thats because its one of the most ugliest cars to roam the roads, along with the TL and TSX. Acura in my opinion just did a complete 180 down the craphole of automaking in terms of design
I'm a honda hardcore, but recently honda made all wrong decisions, first V-10nsx(totally anti-honda glad it cancelled), no v8 for RL and need to make RL fatter legend-like, killed legend,integras,crx,prelude,s2k, put turbo in cross vehicle instead,fail to make AWD turbo(new tsX should be), turn civic to girlie car(that model F1 driver), new Acura grille(newtl should be rwd),too expesive MDX, the list went on, WTF! are they trying to do? that's why i'm driving 6-inline RWd fat gs300 now.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
haha i think if i got a normal 3 or 5 series i'd expect more. but on the m3? it's ok, i will just rev it up higher
The M in M3 must stand for malfunction I would expect more from a $60000 car.
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Originally Posted by The G Man
The M in M3 must stand for malfunction I would expect more from a $60000 car.

so does that make a $50,000 lexus more acceptable if it only has rattles and squeaks?
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Old May 14, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
The M in M3 must stand for malfunction I would expect more from a $60000 car.
when those who pay 300k for lambo are done with their complaints on chrome peeling off their shift ****, i will start mine

my point is, all cars have their pros and cons. lexus is no exception, same for bmw, audi, or lambo. dollar value doesn't mean anything, everyone expects more anyway. i can also say for 90k i would expect more than cloth roof lining in the s class.

gs has rattle issues, but imho good power and good front seats. m3 has their own issues, but it's freaking fast. it's good to aim for a perfect car, but it's almost silly to expect a perfect car
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Old May 14, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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A friend of mine switched to IS after having nightmares with his 3 series coupe. There were mostly electrical type of problems. Like the car would not start lol or the sunroof would not close..
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Old May 15, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SNiiP3R
A friend of mine switched to IS after having nightmares with his 3 series coupe. There were mostly electrical type of problems. Like the car would not start lol or the sunroof would not close..
No way! not German engineering, can't remember, seen it somewhere, after they fetch an audi out of the lake, let the water ran out and it started right up!
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Old May 15, 2009 | 05:15 AM
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my buddy use to work for both bmw and benz as a service manager. he said the same thing about the bmws having electrical problems. same thing with the C class
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