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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Mileage seems to be getting worse; averaging 19 mpg. 70% city driving, 30% freeway; 22k miles; Pilot Sport A/S tires (30 days old); consistent driving style since buying new 2 years ago; only use premium gas.

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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That is very odd, I would check with the dealer. Have you had it maintained? Maybe try some good ole concentrated fuel injector cleaner.

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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City driving. That's where you're mileage will suffer. Plus you're probably using your A/C more so as it is approaching the summer season.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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I find that odd... my GS350 gets 19mpg. I would think with the 450h, it would get better then that.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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that's pretty bad. my gs350 gets around 19mpg in city too, and often better than that. hybrid supposedly should be better on local?
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by flipside909
City driving. That's where you're mileage will suffer. Plus you're probably using your A/C more so as it is approaching the summer season.
My thoughts were mileage improves in the city, no?
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 07:26 AM
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the 450h is supposed to have excellent city mileage due to the electric drive..

on the euro boards people have been claiming 8 to 9l/100kms (like a golf or civic) worked that out to about 26-28mpg

something must be wrong
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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move the seat back farther so your lead foot can barely touch the gas pedal :P

jk yeah it sounds odd...
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could your tire pressure be way low?? maybe all highway driving would really kill the mpg?
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Originally Posted by jekoda
Mileage seems to be getting worse; averaging 19 mpg. 70% city driving, 30% freeway; 22k miles; Pilot Sport A/S tires (30 days old); consistent driving style since buying new 2 years ago; only use premium gas.

Any thoughts?
Thanks
Also, I just realized you side you switched to new tires. Are these tires the same specs as the ones you had on before or are they bigger? Bigger tires can lead to lower MPG rating.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKGOAT
My thoughts were mileage improves in the city, no?
It does if driving style is normal and non-spirited and with the A/c on 100% of the time.
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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That is really weird, even with my "spirited driving habit" (7 speeding ticket last year); my average is between 21~22 MPG or better (85% city/15% highway). And if I really behave, my average would go upto 24~25 MPG (this only occurred when wifey is in the vehicle).

Not sure if this would make any difference, my tire setting are 38psi/36psi (F/R); this only suppose to set off weight distribution close to 50/50 (F/R).

Oh yeah, I do have "drop-in" K&N airfilter in my toy!!!
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Originally Posted by slk_dds
That is really weird, even with my "spirited driving habit" (7 speeding ticket last year)
holy crap... how many of those stayed on your record???
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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Even if he had 245/35 and 285/30, he shouldn't be getting that bad of gas mileage.

If your TP is too low than you would get a warning. Being that nothing has changed in your driving style, I would take it in to the dealer. Maybe there's something wrong with the hybrid control module in which it's making your gas engine operate more than it's suppose to. However, I would think that the computer would detect that an output a warning light.
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holy crap... how many of those stayed on your record???
Luckily NONE!!!

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