Bbk
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 821
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From: CA
If we are taking about the typical, non-aggressive driving that most people do 95% of the time, the stock brakes are more than capable of locking up the wheels (assuming ABS is taken out of the equation) so having more "power" isn't really going to decrease stopping distances.
The thing that really improves stopping distances moreso than the BBK is wider, stickier tires.
That said, the BIG advantage of a BBK is it's ability to dissipate heat better (more surface area = more heat transfer) and thus provide more consistent braking performance without brake fade during extended braking.
The thing that really improves stopping distances moreso than the BBK is wider, stickier tires.
That said, the BIG advantage of a BBK is it's ability to dissipate heat better (more surface area = more heat transfer) and thus provide more consistent braking performance without brake fade during extended braking.
Also, don't forget BBK usually comes with SS-Brake lines that do affect stopping times/distance.
Last edited by Eternity3G; Oct 9, 2006 at 01:03 PM.
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Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 14,523
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From: new jersey
Project Mu:
A) Front Forged Kit - MSRP: $2,800.00
-4 Piston Caliper (Forged Mold - Stamped)
-4 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green, Silver, or Gunmetal
-345mm (13.59") or 355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
B) Front Racing Calipers (4-pot) - MSRP: $3,850.00
-4 Piston Caliper (Billet Forged - Shaved)
-4 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green
-345mm (13.59") or 355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
C) Front Racing Calipers (6-pot) - MSRP: $4,800.00
-6 Piston Caliper (Billet Forged - Shaved)
-2 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green
-355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
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Brembo:
Brembo currently has not released the production pieces for the 06-up GS Series as of yet. They require 3 kits to build "special orders" or 6 kits to finalize full-production pieces. I've been speaking to them concerning applications. Here are some options:
A) -355mm (13.98") (Cross Drilled or Slotted Avail)
-If Production - MSRP: $3,295.00
-If not Production - MSRP: $3,875.00
-4 Piston Cast Caliper
-Std. Colors: Red, Black, or Silver
-Custom Colors Available at $375.00/axle
-2 Pads/Caliper
B) -380mm (14.96") (Cross Drilled or Slotted Avail)
-Brembo Will determine 4, 6, or 8 Pistons required
-If Production - Approx MSRP: up to $4,295.00
-If not Production - Approx MSRP: up to $4,995.00
Brembo Assorted Colors:
Brembo Silver 8-Piston (Drilled)
Brembo Red 4-Piston (Drilled)
New Brembo 6-Piston (Slotted)
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EDIT: More info will be added..... (gotta give me time to get all the info...)
A) Front Forged Kit - MSRP: $2,800.00
-4 Piston Caliper (Forged Mold - Stamped)
-4 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green, Silver, or Gunmetal
-345mm (13.59") or 355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
B) Front Racing Calipers (4-pot) - MSRP: $3,850.00
-4 Piston Caliper (Billet Forged - Shaved)
-4 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green
-345mm (13.59") or 355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
C) Front Racing Calipers (6-pot) - MSRP: $4,800.00
-6 Piston Caliper (Billet Forged - Shaved)
-2 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green
-355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
==================================================
Brembo:
Brembo currently has not released the production pieces for the 06-up GS Series as of yet. They require 3 kits to build "special orders" or 6 kits to finalize full-production pieces. I've been speaking to them concerning applications. Here are some options:
A) -355mm (13.98") (Cross Drilled or Slotted Avail)
-If Production - MSRP: $3,295.00
-If not Production - MSRP: $3,875.00
-4 Piston Cast Caliper
-Std. Colors: Red, Black, or Silver
-Custom Colors Available at $375.00/axle
-2 Pads/Caliper
B) -380mm (14.96") (Cross Drilled or Slotted Avail)
-Brembo Will determine 4, 6, or 8 Pistons required
-If Production - Approx MSRP: up to $4,295.00
-If not Production - Approx MSRP: up to $4,995.00
Brembo Assorted Colors:
Brembo Silver 8-Piston (Drilled)
Brembo Red 4-Piston (Drilled)
New Brembo 6-Piston (Slotted)
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EDIT: More info will be added..... (gotta give me time to get all the info...)
NIce Post
Endless brakes are around 30-45 days
Pole Position
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 290
Likes: 0
From: FL
Thanks for the Brembo info you posted. I got the typical "we don't make that
for your application" email from their sales group today. Nice to see they
are working on one behind the scenes...
Just a thought... maybe someone here could orchestrate a group buy for
us GS3G folks on CL for this kit, with the hopes that maybe we could
get a discount? I am in !
-- Bob
for your application" email from their sales group today. Nice to see they
are working on one behind the scenes...
Just a thought... maybe someone here could orchestrate a group buy for
us GS3G folks on CL for this kit, with the hopes that maybe we could
get a discount? I am in !
-- Bob
very nice stuff dave, really apprecaite the info. glad to see that companies are working on stuff. project u are definitely pricey man, their 6 pot setup is nice but man the price
but the brembo has interesting stuff. are they REALLY going to have 15" setup for the gs? i don't know if they will sell well, that's very expensive setup, and maintenance won't be cheap too!!!
but the brembo has interesting stuff. are they REALLY going to have 15" setup for the gs? i don't know if they will sell well, that's very expensive setup, and maintenance won't be cheap too!!!
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 821
Likes: 8
From: CA
NP... Whatever I can do to help out! I know I get a lot of useful info from other members so I have to at least try to put forth my effort. Keep checking back as I will add more as I get more info.
Per my conversation with Brembo, they mentioned that the Option A (the 14" / 4-pot) is not a problem and since it only requires a 18" wheel diameter to fit (granted there is enough caliper clearance on the face of the wheel). The 15" was brought up since the GS430 already has a fairly large factory set-up, and they want to entice the V8 demographic as well as the V6. The only foreseeable issue they had was that they only want to build the 15" if there was enough demand. There was a little hesitation since the kit requires a 19"+ wheel set-up and Brembo was not sure there were enough ppl out there with the 19"-20" setups. Many of the GS drivers have the 18" 5-spoke factory wheel and that should accomodate the 14"/4-pot setup....
If you guys are interested in a group buy, you can start posting you interest here and I will do my best to work with one of the sponsors to get pricing if we meet the requirements. I'm not too sure which of the sponsors is direct with Brembo and gets the best breaks in pricing - but if you guys put something together, I'd be more than willing to work as a CL "liason" to seal the deal. I can talk to Carson, Derick, and Tod and see who can get the best pricing without getting into too much trouble (I know some of the companies have strict discount policies).
very nice stuff dave, really apprecaite the info. glad to see that companies are working on stuff. project u are definitely pricey man, their 6 pot setup is nice but man the price
but the brembo has interesting stuff. are they REALLY going to have 15" setup for the gs? i don't know if they will sell well, that's very expensive setup, and maintenance won't be cheap too!!!
but the brembo has interesting stuff. are they REALLY going to have 15" setup for the gs? i don't know if they will sell well, that's very expensive setup, and maintenance won't be cheap too!!!
Thanks for the Brembo info you posted. I got the typical "we don't make that
for your application" email from their sales group today. Nice to see they
are working on one behind the scenes...
Just a thought... maybe someone here could orchestrate a group buy for
us GS3G folks on CL for this kit, with the hopes that maybe we could
get a discount? I am in !
-- Bob
for your application" email from their sales group today. Nice to see they
are working on one behind the scenes...
Just a thought... maybe someone here could orchestrate a group buy for
us GS3G folks on CL for this kit, with the hopes that maybe we could
get a discount? I am in !
-- Bob
Last edited by Eternity3G; Oct 10, 2006 at 08:35 AM.
great info there dave. i think brembo is right on the money on the setup, the 15" will be a good "step up" from the stock gs430 brakes, but considering the price and that people have to get 19s or 20s, i don't know if they will get enough demand to warrant the design. i would love to have that, but considering that i will have to probably pay 1k or more for rotor replacement, that's quite some money for sure it looks sick on big wheels of course 
i remember todd gave me pricing on brembo before, can't remember, but for sure he has contacts (at least back then)
i remember todd gave me pricing on brembo before, can't remember, but for sure he has contacts (at least back then)
Pole Position
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 290
Likes: 0
From: FL
Dave - I will be ready for a 4-pot / 14" kit. I will have the Lexus 18" g-spider wheels - so they should fit, right?
car update: latest dealer allotment did not have a loaded white GS, so now they have to dealer locate one for me... another couple weeks I am sure... almost there, almost there...
car update: latest dealer allotment did not have a loaded white GS, so now they have to dealer locate one for me... another couple weeks I am sure... almost there, almost there...
