More info on 2005 GS
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The reason I say the new 7 series is not selling as well....is because we were at a BMW dealer looking at cars for my brother about 3 weeks ago. I hate talking with the sales guys and go straight to the sales manager. We started talking and we got on the topic of the 7 series.
I asked about the styling on the car and he said it is controversial "either you like it or hate it" I asked him if they were selling a lot of them. He said yes, but the reason is because most people who buy this car lease them through a business. Guess what the lease is on this car....about $699 to $800 bucks. That is cheap compared to a S500 lease which can reach about $1500/month. Both cars are almost in the same class....but their is a huge difference in lease prices. If it were my choice, I would pay half the price and get the bimmer and still have top dog status.
The reason the 7 Series is selling is because the lease rates are so good "Incentives"
When it comes to the flagships, I believe the top status level goes to the:
1. Mercedes S class
2. BMW 7 series
3. Lexus LS 430
I think Lexus can go higher but they have to stop taking such a conservative design approach. If you think about it the body style still resembles the 1990 LS400. Which was a knockout when it first came out. I think we can all agree that the design of LS430 is getting a bit dated.
I asked about the styling on the car and he said it is controversial "either you like it or hate it" I asked him if they were selling a lot of them. He said yes, but the reason is because most people who buy this car lease them through a business. Guess what the lease is on this car....about $699 to $800 bucks. That is cheap compared to a S500 lease which can reach about $1500/month. Both cars are almost in the same class....but their is a huge difference in lease prices. If it were my choice, I would pay half the price and get the bimmer and still have top dog status.
The reason the 7 Series is selling is because the lease rates are so good "Incentives"
When it comes to the flagships, I believe the top status level goes to the:
1. Mercedes S class
2. BMW 7 series
3. Lexus LS 430
I think Lexus can go higher but they have to stop taking such a conservative design approach. If you think about it the body style still resembles the 1990 LS400. Which was a knockout when it first came out. I think we can all agree that the design of LS430 is getting a bit dated.
Last edited by DrewGS4; Apr 19, 2003 at 10:01 AM.
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The overal boring styling trend from Lexus has been disturbing for all of us CLers because we don't want to see our beloved GS look like the ES!
From my understanding, BMW is offering rebates on the 7 for the first time to spur sales. Also, they have NEW buyers but have totally alienated loyalists. Hell, loyalists are complaining about the M cars saying they are just getting too heavy.
They are the 2nd most profitable car co. behind Porsche, so they kinda know what they are doing.
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Originally posted by Alewifebp
From this same site, I have heard about a remodel on the LS430 in the near future, even though it is a relatively new model.
From this same site, I have heard about a remodel on the LS430 in the near future, even though it is a relatively new model.
/Fredric
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From: Georgia
Re: i didnt make it
Originally posted by rukarims
HAHA....note i didnt make this some guy on clublexus sent me an email.
HAHA....note i didnt make this some guy on clublexus sent me an email.
right here you claim that YOU DID MAKE IT-
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=81129
whats the deal?
Last edited by GSTRANCE; Apr 19, 2003 at 05:09 PM.
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Re: Re: i didnt make it
Originally posted by GSTRANCE
rukarims-
right here you claim that YOU DID MAKE IT-
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=81129
whats the deal?
rukarims-
right here you claim that YOU DID MAKE IT-
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=81129
whats the deal?
I don't even know WHAT to say ....
Originally posted by Mr Johnson
I know everyone seems to think that but the data doesn't back it up.
7 Series Sales
1999 18,233
2000 16,619
2001 13,389
2002 22,006
Seems like though folks might have issues with it (iDrive, Styling, etc..) they are selling quite well.
I know everyone seems to think that but the data doesn't back it up.
7 Series Sales
1999 18,233
2000 16,619
2001 13,389
2002 22,006
Seems like though folks might have issues with it (iDrive, Styling, etc..) they are selling quite well.
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From: North Carolina
Re: i didnt make it
Originally posted by rukarims
HAHA....note i didnt make this some guy on clublexus sent me an email.
HAHA....note i didnt make this some guy on clublexus sent me an email.
Originally posted by GSTRANCE
rukarims-
right here you claim that YOU DID MAKE IT-
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=81129
whats the deal?
rukarims-
right here you claim that YOU DID MAKE IT-
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=81129
whats the deal?
Originally posted by rukarims
HEHE..well i found a pic of the new HSX thats coming out next yr. So i started to think the front end could look like the new GS. So I photoshoped it . Tell me what you think. Could this be what the new 2004 GS would look like?
well i kinda of like it...
HEHE..well i found a pic of the new HSX thats coming out next yr. So i started to think the front end could look like the new GS. So I photoshoped it . Tell me what you think. Could this be what the new 2004 GS would look like?
well i kinda of like it...
BUSTED.
Last edited by DaveGS4; Apr 19, 2003 at 08:13 PM.
no no
Lexus Test Driver
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From: Florida
Oh, don't be a cockneck. It was you. It doesn't look all that bad, though. The front is nice but the Photoshopped part could be shorter.. 
Last edited by Sal Collaziano; Apr 19, 2003 at 11:07 PM.