Does anyone have any information regarding the new design yet?

 

A few more ponys but mostly luxury. Due out in mid 04 as a 2005.

 

where did you learn about that?!

 

That's what I've been reading here on the forums. I don't know how much horse is really needed. I don't know.. Honestly? I'm mostly curious about how the car is going to look inside and out. I know I like the exterior. I love the interior to death.. I don't care if it's any faster. I have a Vette and if I decide to make it an 11 second monster, I will. I just want a great luxury car. If it looks anything like that Photochop we've been seeing, I'll take the new STS V Series Cadillac instead...

 

Hi guys,

I also have heard the new GS will have awd as an option.

 

Sal,

You're basically going to have to wait a year and a half to get the next generation GS and I'm sure demand will be high so you might have to pay a premium.

I sent you a private message, check it.

 

Did that happen when the current generation GS first came out?

 

now that one is true

 

i believe so? at least the previous owner of my gs4 (i know him personally) had to order and waited for his car

 

Demand increases dramatically when a new body style comes out. Just look at the sales increases for the 2002 ES300 over 2001.

https://www.clublexus.com/Articles/I...02/091302.html

Certain car makers allow their dealers to surcharge customers for high demand cars and others don't. I know that Porsche would NOT allow the dealers to surcharge buyers when the Boxter came out but I believe BMW and Mercedes allow their dealers to do it for vehicles that are hard to get. I also remember Mazda dealers surcharging when the 1st generation Mazda Miata when it came out.

Does anybody know if Lexus dealers are allowed to do this? I wonder if they did it when the SC430 came out. I remember seeing an auction on eBay for somebody's place on a dealer waiting list for the SC430. The guy clearly stated that the auction was for the waiting list spot, not the car. The bidding was up to over $10K just to be number 2 on the waiting list at a dealership.

 

Yes, demand USUALLY increases dramatically when a new bodystyle comes out. I remember there being a lot of controversy over the looks of the current generation GS when it was new--stuff like that tends to dampen enthusiasm. The SC430 has basically been sitting on dealer lots since inception (at least around here); price gouging was not an option!

Also, don't confuse sales increases with demand increases. It could just be that Lexus didn't produce many 2001 ES's, trying to build up demand for the 2002. At some price, EVERY car produced is going to be sold.

 

-I can't wait to see what the new GS is gonna be. I'm hoping for another sports sedan class leader!! And maybe "Import Car of the Year" There's a lot more competition than there was in 98 though.

 

Who wanted an AWD option?

 

Engine-wise: I predict it's going to have the 4.0 v6 w/ VVT-i motor that is going to be introduced in the 2003 V6 4Runner due shortly. If not a 4.0 a smaller displacing motor (...say 3.4).

 

lexus does not put markups on cars.
max price you'll pay is MSRP.
if you ever did pay a premium to get a lexus, you just gave the salesman xtra money.