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Old May 18, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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It's not who you know...Is WHO you Blow....!! I've been in this situation before million times with my previous car shows. Its nothing new !!
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Old May 19, 2009 | 01:42 AM
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some shows are like this ,

keep having a blast out there and meet everyone and don't expect to win and when you do be appreciative . has happened to me alot .

Esp considering when i just got my lex. its came up alot since .
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Old May 19, 2009 | 01:55 AM
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every show i have been to has morethan 1 judge, normaly 3 (for this exact reason). that sucks about the audi, not 1 exterior mod????????????? more pics of your car please
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Old May 19, 2009 | 02:28 AM
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i have to agree with what everyones saying. just have fun and hangout with friends, just enjoy the compliments you get and dont sweat the judges. My favorite burn was when i was showing my RS



w/ jdm turbo engine swap, full suspension, cf hood lip trunk and rare factory te37s didnt even place be cuz of these masterpieces of OEM-ness except for the 240 it was kinda nice

1st


2nd


3rd


but i had a good time-kinda
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Old May 19, 2009 | 05:07 AM
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Thanks everyone, im so not pissed off anymore with your guys comments. I got so much attention so all was good. Here is a front end of the audi next to me.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 05:10 AM
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Another pic of my car.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 05:24 AM
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List of mods and pic of IS next to mine. What made it worse, every car around me was thumping their sound system, so when i turn mine on the glue around the cone split and caused a popping noise. I went and found the JL audio rep and showed him what happened. Even being out of warrranty he called Stereo West to bring me out a new W6 sub and they hooked me up.

2002 Lexus GS430

Exterior
L-tuned Side skirts
L-tuned shocks/struts 2” drop
Brembo vented rotors
Giovanna Dalar rims, F 20X8.5 R 20X10
TTE front lip spoiler
JDM roof spoiler
Brabus door entry illumination led
Lexus door illumination sills
JDM side window visors
Clear turn signal markers
Chrome trunk bar



Electronics
JL audio 12” W6 sub/ 1000 watt amp
K40 Bluetooth radar with laser diffuser (front & rear)
LED trunk light
Optima yellow top battery
Interior
Custom leather scratches (courtesy of our German shepherd, Mylani Rockstar)
Engine
Injen intake
Borla exhaust
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Old May 19, 2009 | 05:51 AM
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There are many, many factors involved with judging, and how "fair" it is.

As far as the number of judges, that all depends on how many cars and how much the promoter is paying. Most judging companies charge by the car, or how many total cars there are. The issue is that most judges don't know everything about all cars, and especially trucks. For Honda guys....some judges don't know about Spoon or Mugen, so how are they going to judge that against a VIS Racing car?

With your Lexus, it also depends on the overall execution the judge is looking for, and the competition. If the class you are in was a VIP class, I would not place you as high for wheels and stance. Nothing against your car, but those are key to the VIP theme. If the class was more Dub, you would place higher.

The way we use to judge was quality over quantity. I'd rather see a well done modestly modded car with the best parts over a car that had every cheap accessory available from Pep Boys. Also fitment, functionality, form, execution, and cleanliness are key factors.

One way we tried to level the field was to break up the judging sheet by categories like Exterior mods, Interior mods, Engine, Suspension, Audio…and so on. Points were awarded for cleanliness, quality of materials and equipment, fitment, execution, etc. If you had a full Wald bodykit, but it fit like crap, the paint was peeling, it was dirty, and cracked, you would score lower in points for Exterior than the guy with a factory bodykit, flawless paint, perfect fitment, and super clean. Paint is the toughest since a new car will have the best paint as far as quality. I actually judged a guy with an old RX7 that had factory paint (no respray) and it was flawless!!!! I placed him higher than a guy with custom airbrushed everything, but the paint was wavy, orange peel, and overspray. He was pissed, but after I went over the score sheet, he understood.

Again, all judges cannot be experts with every type of car/truck. Judging is also a subjective exercise. Oh, and for those who think “friends” win, that may be true in local small shows, but the HIN’s of the world, it’s a matter of sponsors. If a car is associated with a sponsor of the show, they will get a slight edge. But, at the bigger shows, you will notice the winners are pretty high caliber cars.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mrkenji
sorry to hear that man. your car is clean. a lot of car shows and judging is political. sometimes it is about who you know and things like that. however my mentality when i go into a show is just to show off my car and what i have done to it. my reward is other peoples appreciation of that. and if i take a trophy home as well its just a bonus..

keep up the good work man.

That's the most humble comment I've seen in regards to a car show and I agree with it 100%...My boy with his boosted jdm'd out s2000 gets mad everytime he loses at a show...I hate to break it to him but not everyone loves jdm, ya know.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Thanks for the detail reply. I don't understand why he just didn't leave the Audi wagon in mid size class and give him first there and give me first in full size class. Maybe he doesn't like Lexus vehicles
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Old May 19, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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car shows are usually gonna be bias always. can't be avoided lol
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Old May 19, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Yeah don't take it personal.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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The whole point of being in the car shows is to have fun and hangout. This is an opportunity for you to see what others have done to their cars and what you can do to beat that...or compete against it.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LEXUS_KID
Did you have a good time, that's all that should matter
What he said!
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