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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by Skulinex
WOW, they look awsome dood!, now I have an idea of what they will look like.. one question though, are you using D2S or D2R bulbs??, just wonder that, but I really like their color
i belive lexus has only one type.. i can't tell you right now which one 'cause i do not remember which one is which.. but the diffrence in those two that one has reflector in it and other one doesn't.. well mine doesn't

i hope it helps, if you need more detail i can provide with it later, write here if you need them
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by CamRen
ouch..... the pictures are blinding me and giving me color spots .....
and im not kidding.....

those bulbs are nice and bright and blue!!!

you wanna see some purple???
drive up to a building w/ tinted glass widows... and see the refelection on your hids in them ... its bluish purple... haha just another way to see yours hids how the others see em on the road...


Enjoy em!

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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by TXSTYLE
When I go to K2's website I don't see any "8000k" bulbs?! Just 6000k! I too want a whiter bluer light as opposed to our more "violet" color beam!
which url did you go to?

i never been on their website

i can hook you up with 8K if you want

"violet"
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by BADGS400
those look extremely good!!!!!! Ill have to be gettin them? (8000K or not) i like em, do all of them look that way around 6-8k or are yours different from most others? Hope you enjoy blinding people
thank you.

i'm sorry i dont understand your question, refrase is so i can answer it

and thank you for blinding others
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by SandRock
They have a whole bunch of them (K2 HID 8000k with Phillips ballast) on ebay. They keep saying they are new and not at retailers yet. One ad said they are going to retail for 1k.
mine was retail (it still is)

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a1lexus, those hids look pretty good from those pics. You said you didn't need to install any wiring. Well, you dont need to, but it's a very very good idea to wire in an automotive relay switch from your ballasts. If your GS didn't come with hid oem then it wasn't designed to power the ballast. The hid ballast is an ignition box filled with dozens of capacitors and resistors that charge up a 50,000watt discharge. A totally different powerplant from boring halogen bulbs. Just a plug and play install will put a lot of strain on your alternator and the relay neutralizes that by tapping power off the battery.

The different coloration of an hid system is determined by two factors: bulb element and optics. A 6000K bulb is blurer than a 4000K bulb of course. Also the optical lens system will determine color by breaking down the white light in certain ways. This is why the Honda S2000's lights flicker blue, red, purple, pink when the car pitches up and down. Every hid factory-equipped car comes with 4100K bulbs. Yes, even BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Lexus, Honda, all are 4100K. And I guarantee you due to optic lenses, some will be bluer or more colored than any hid kit you can buy on the market no matter how falsely advertise they may be (ie 8000K or 12000K).

Once again, 8000K light bulbs do not exist, this is a marketing ploy. The e-bay peddlers are talking out of their asses when they say they have a product that isn't on the market yet and are selling them for over 50% off. Does anyone else here find that HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS??

The D2R bulb is used in reflector beam lamps and the D2S is used in projector beam lamps. You can tell which is which by looking along side the bulb itself. The D2R bulb has a dark band painted along the side alledgedly to reduce difraction outside the beam pattern. The D2R is an older technology and most cars are using the projector D2S bulb, except for Mercedes--they want to differ from BMW. If you bought an hid kit, you want the D2S because D2R will only reduce light output. You can 'convert' a D2R to D2S by taking fine sandpaper and rubbing the strip off gently.

K2 kits don't come with Philips ballasts. They come with a unmarked, unlabelled Korean-made ballast, which is totally different in terms of build quality from Philips. Philips is one of the top notch industry best---so much so that there are actually Philips knock-offs.

Just touching on a few points I saw on the thread. a1lexus, pics from afar would be good. Your hids look good. I was afraid they might be too purple---any K2 buyers, don't buy the 'Crystal White' kit. It is waaaay too purple.
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by BADGS400
those look extremely good!!!!!! Ill have to be gettin them? (8000K or not) i like em, do all of them look that way around 6-8k or are yours different from most others? Hope you enjoy blinding people

Ok ill say it differently, i might be gettin some... i really like them, do all the HIDS from 6000 to the "8000" look the same color as yours, or are yours different from most of the other, or all the others?

the hope you enjoy blinding people is a joke incase you didnt know

hope you understand this...
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by lex400sc
a1lexus, those hids look pretty good from those pics. You said you didn't need to install any wiring. Well, you dont need to, but it's a very very good idea to wire in an automotive relay switch from your ballasts. If your GS didn't come with hid oem then it wasn't designed to power the ballast. The hid ballast is an ignition box filled with dozens of capacitors and resistors that charge up a 50,000watt discharge. A totally different powerplant from boring halogen bulbs. Just a plug and play install will put a lot of strain on your alternator and the relay neutralizes that by tapping power off the battery.
i'm going post few pictures how exactly everything is connected, yes this is true it didn't required any wiring, it has connectros where you plug everything in without cutting any wires, that's what i meant no wiring.

50,000 wats discharge.. that's happens only once when you turn lights on, then it goes to 35wats

Originally posted by lex400sc
The different coloration of an hid system is determined by two factors: bulb element and optics. A 6000K bulb is blurer than a 4000K bulb of course. Also the optical lens system will determine color by breaking down the white light in certain ways. This is why the Honda S2000's lights flicker blue, red, purple, pink when the car pitches up and down. Every hid factory-equipped car comes with 4100K bulbs. Yes, even BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Lexus, Honda, all are 4100K. And I guarantee you due to optic lenses, some will be bluer or more colored than any hid kit you can buy on the market no matter how falsely advertise they may be (ie 8000K or 12000K).
all cars comes with 4k that's true, but then again.. i'm not quite sure about new cars.. like years 2002 or 2001 or even 2000 might come already with 6k, since this technology was out for while already, it's quite possible that they can deside to upgrade their 4k to 6k

Originally posted by lex400sc
Once again, 8000K light bulbs do not exist, this is a marketing ploy. The e-bay peddlers are talking out of their asses when they say they have a product that isn't on the market yet and are selling them for over 50% off. Does anyone else here find that HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS??
I don't know man, sounds like you have factory and you d-a-m-n proud of it, 'cause you you can read it between lines in every post that you left:

"Oh, I have factory installed HID, and none of those non-factory stuff, even though it might be better"

those are 8K, not a 6K, i'm looking at the kit right now and everywhere it says 8k, this is *retail* kit not just white box.

Originally posted by lex400sc
The D2R bulb is used in reflector beam lamps and the D2S is used in projector beam lamps. You can tell which is which by looking along side the bulb itself. The D2R bulb has a dark band painted along the side alledgedly to reduce difraction outside the beam pattern. The D2R is an older technology and most cars are using the projector D2S bulb, except for Mercedes--they want to differ from BMW. If you bought an hid kit, you want the D2S because D2R will only reduce light output. You can 'convert' a D2R to D2S by taking fine sandpaper and rubbing the strip off gently.
um.. thank you for explaining what's the difference between D2R and D2S..

Originally posted by lex400sc
K2 kits don't come with Philips ballasts. They come with a unmarked, unlabelled Korean-made ballast, which is totally different in terms of build quality from Philips. Philips is one of the top notch industry best---so much so that there are actually Philips knock-offs.
what makes you think so? my ballasts the came with this kit are made by philips.

Originally posted by lex400sc
Just touching on a few points I saw on the thread. a1lexus, pics from afar would be good. Your hids look good. I was afraid they might be too purple---any K2 buyers, don't buy the 'Crystal White' kit. It is waaaay too purple.
will post them soon..
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by BADGS400
those look extremely good!!!!!! Ill have to be gettin them? (8000K or not) i like em, do all of them look that way around 6-8k or are yours different from most others? Hope you enjoy blinding people

Ok ill say it differently, i might be gettin some... i really like them, do all the HIDS from 6000 to the "8000" look the same color as yours, or are yours different from most of the other, or all the others?

the hope you enjoy blinding people is a joke incase you didnt know

hope you understand this...
um.. sounds like you russian.. heh i dont know i get this feeling but if i answer and that's not exactly what you looking for send me an either email or PM with text in your native language i'll try to translate

as for your question:

i belive that 6000k will turn to "yelowish" after while but will start from blue, only 8000k will stay blue all the time

i have not seen any other 8k out there.. they just came out.. maybe a little bit over a month or so
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by a1exus


I don't know man, sounds like you have factory and you d-a-m-n proud of it, 'cause you you can read it between lines in every post that you left:

"Oh, I have factory installed HID, and none of those non-factory stuff, even though it might be better"

those are 8K, not a 6K, i'm looking at the kit right now and everywhere it says 8k, this is *retail* kit not just white box.

I've been watching over HID stuff for a year now, and I also know some people in Phiilps. 8000k bulbs have not been developed yet as of today, not Philips not PIAA not Hella not anyone. At least not REAL 8000k bulbs that are suppose to be 8000k in brightness and color. We're not saying that anything not factory is crap, we just don't want you to buy something thinking that it's 8000k bulbs but in real life they don't exist.

From your pics I can see more that they are not 8000k in color compared to the 6000k bulbs I had before. That's why everything is kinda fishy. If Phiilps release some sort of 8000k bulbs in the future, I wouldn't be surprised to see K2 8000k bulbs disappear. I don't think anyone other than Phiips or PIAA can develop 8000k bulbs before them.

Again just watching out for you man. It'll SUCK if you got something that you think is right but is not.
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 06:42 PM
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i'm going post few pictures how exactly everything is connected, yes this is true it didn't required any wiring, it has connectros where you plug everything in without cutting any wires, that's what i meant no wiring.
So are you saying it did come with an automotive relay? Was there a one-inch cubic box with 4 to 5 30-amp male leads?

Originally posted by a1exus
all cars comes with 4k that's true, but then again.. i'm not quite sure about new cars.. like years 2002 or 2001 or even 2000 might come already with 6k, since this technology was out for while already, it's quite possible that they can deside to upgrade their 4k to 6k
ALL cars from every manufacturer from 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 all come equipped with 4100K bulbs.

Originally posted by a1exus
I don't know man, sounds like you have factory and you d-a-m-n proud of it, 'cause you you can read it between lines in every post that you left:

"Oh, I have factory installed HID, and none of those non-factory stuff, even though it might be better"
Actually, I have an SC400 which was never released with factory hids. I am in the process of hunting down a factory projector system that will fit my car. Difference here between that an a kit conversion being a 100% focused beam with razor sharp cut-off lines and coloration exactly like it was intended to be. That quote you made, I never said. Sounds like you're just a proud owner You've seen the marked improvement from halogen to hid and I congradulate you on that, honestly. Next you'll see the marked improvement from hid to factory hid. A benchmark of hids isn't in staring directly at the low beam and saying "Ooo, that's bright! Much brighter! Bright is cool!". Brighter isn't even neccessarily better, most of the time it just mean higher farad capacitors that reduce bulb life. Check the beam pattern, the cut off, etc. Compare your hids to the RX300 hids, which have very sharp distinct lines.



Originally posted by a1exus
those are 8K, not a 6K, i'm looking at the kit right now and everywhere it says 8k, this is *retail* kit not just white box.
Be that as it may, there is no 8000K bulb out there. K2 makes kits, not bulbs, not ballasts. They are a second hand in everything they sell. If you visit the websites of the top 20 lighting manufacturers in the world---NONE of them make an 8000K hid bulb.

Originally posted by a1exus
um.. thank you for explaining what's the difference between D2R and D2S..
Here I was responding to Skulinex's question on the differences of D2R and D2S.


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what makes you think so? my ballasts the came with this kit are made by philips.
Are they? How is the ballast labelled? What is the part number and serial number. I can verify for you if they are truly made by Philips.

Originally posted by a1exus
will post them soon..
I don't want to get into an arguement with you here. You bought HIDs and I salute you for that. I'm not judging you or anything. I'm just trying to educate/correct people. If I see a thread with untrue statements in it, I could ignore it, but that would mean everyone that reads the thread believes in the statements. Looking forward to those pics, enjoy your new hids!

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Originally posted by lex400sc

The different coloration of an hid system is determined by two factors: bulb element and optics. A 6000K bulb is blurer than a 4000K bulb of course. Also the optical lens system will determine color by breaking down the white light in certain ways. This is why the Honda S2000's lights flicker blue, red, purple, pink when the car pitches up and down. Every hid factory-equipped car comes with 4100K bulbs. Yes, even BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Lexus, Honda, all are 4100K. And I guarantee you due to optic lenses, some will be bluer or more colored than any hid kit you can buy on the market no matter how falsely advertise they may be (ie 8000K or 12000K).

You could use a color temperature meter to find out And as the halide crystals vaporize over time, the color temperature will shift to the warmer end of the spectrum as this is the case with all metal-halide arc lamps.

BTW color is also determined by the type, mixture and quantity of xenon gas (which is used to start the arc hense the initial deep blue) and halide crystals and mercury, the more xenon, the bluer the light will appear.

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Here's a picThe yellow is halide crystals
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Originally posted by lex400sc
The hid ballast is an ignition box filled with dozens of capacitors and resistors that charge up a 50,000watt discharge. A totally different powerplant from boring halogen bulbs. Just a plug and play install will put a lot of strain on your alternator and the relay neutralizes that by tapping power off the battery.
Actually it is 50,000 volts @ 35 watts

Wattage is a resistive load

50,000 is a lot most I have seen have ranged from $20,000-25,000 volts

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Originally posted by jahummer


You could use a color temperature meter to find out And as the halide crystals vaporize over time, the color temperature will shift to the warmer end of the spectrum as this is the case with all metal-halide arc lamps.

BTW color is also determined by the type, mixture and quantity of xenon gas (which is used to start the arc hense the initial deep blue) and halide crystals and mercury, the more xenon, the bluer the light will appear.
There's just one problem, metal-halide HID is never implimented in a direct current circuit. Metal-halide HID is used in ballparks, industrial factories, movie projectors, and office buildings. In metal halide lamps, ions from the molten halide salts can leach into hot quartz in the presence of a DC electric field. This can cause strains in the quartz arc tube. At the ends of the arc tube, a phenominon known as 'electrolysis' may occur releasing chemically reactive halide salt components that can damage the arc tube or the electrodes. The arc tube will most likely crack as a result. There was a DC halide bulb developed to work on fixed-currecnt DC systems, which an automobile is NOT. Same deal with the mercury vapor bulbs and high-pressure sodium bulbs for that matter. And since they are run off AC ballasts, halide HIDs operate on 100-2000watts as opposed to xenon HID running on 35 watts. Automotive HIDs don't use alkaline earth metal salts as an 'active ingredient', they use noble gases such as xenon---which is located on the opposite spectrum of the periodic table.
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