View Poll Results: what's your opinion about navigation system
I have a NAVI in my car and I love it!
199
55.59%
I have a NAVI in my car but I don't use it at all or much.
17
4.75%
I don't have a NAVI in my car.
102
28.49%
I don't have it and I don't see a need for it.
40
11.17%
What's navigation system?
0
0%
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Navigation System
Lexus Champion
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,959
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From: SoCal
Re: Re: Navigation System
Originally posted by ezlyf
Check out this site. www.kenwood.com They have a Touch screen navigation system that rivals lexus's Touch screen Denso system. The kenwood has about 3 million more Points of interests in its database and you can even watch DVD movies through it.....
But the great thing about it is it's price. If you go to your local dealer for the factory nav system, It would cost you about 10 G's to get everything installed.( i know this becuase i actually considered this option) Remember, radio and climate control are integrated in the Denso factory system. So you would have to purchase a factory Climate control system. All in all the Kenwood is #1 in the market right now for ease of use and practicality. It would set you back about $3K installed.
Check out this site. www.kenwood.com They have a Touch screen navigation system that rivals lexus's Touch screen Denso system. The kenwood has about 3 million more Points of interests in its database and you can even watch DVD movies through it.....
But the great thing about it is it's price. If you go to your local dealer for the factory nav system, It would cost you about 10 G's to get everything installed.( i know this becuase i actually considered this option) Remember, radio and climate control are integrated in the Denso factory system. So you would have to purchase a factory Climate control system. All in all the Kenwood is #1 in the market right now for ease of use and practicality. It would set you back about $3K installed.
Driver
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
From: Michigan
I won't buy another car without navigation. It usually leads me to out-of-the-way places that would be really tough to find. Then, it will lead me directly home. I also echo Bit's comment.
OK Willard, I've teed it up. Take a swing.
I'm not sure I'll buy another Lexus because of their indifference toward owners who need a data base that's less than 3 years old.
OK Willard, I've teed it up. Take a swing.
I'm not sure I'll buy another Lexus because of their indifference toward owners who need a data base that's less than 3 years old.
Driver
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: CA
alexus, if you are looking to add an aftermarket navigation system, you definately want to go wtih the Alpine system. The Alpine is far superior to Kenwood and all of the OEM nav systems. Try it out at your local dealer...it is extremely intuitive and has more options than you can imagine. It's DVD based too, so it covers the whole US plus parts of Canada.
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 6,879
Likes: 4
From: Kaliforniastan
I changed the poll for you...
I have Nav in my GS430 and I absolutely LOVE it. Would not buy another new car w/o it (unless it's Mercedes' HORRIBLE rendition of Nav...the COMMAND system...I could DEFINITELY go aftermarket with Mercedes).
I wish I had Nav in my SC...I might end up putting one in...personally, I like the Pioneer system...
Harmon-Kardon/Becker and Blaupunkt offer single-DIN simple nav system...Pioneer (ANH-P9R) also offers one but only in Europe...I might go this route due to the ease of installation but you don't get the advantages of having a real map on the screen...it just shows you simple graphics and tells you how to get to where you're going (voice)....good enough for my uses...may work for you...check it out...
www.hktrafficpro.com
http://www.blaupunktusa.com/travelpi...lot_index.html
http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/product_...nomy_id=25-112
I have Nav in my GS430 and I absolutely LOVE it. Would not buy another new car w/o it (unless it's Mercedes' HORRIBLE rendition of Nav...the COMMAND system...I could DEFINITELY go aftermarket with Mercedes).
I wish I had Nav in my SC...I might end up putting one in...personally, I like the Pioneer system...
Harmon-Kardon/Becker and Blaupunkt offer single-DIN simple nav system...Pioneer (ANH-P9R) also offers one but only in Europe...I might go this route due to the ease of installation but you don't get the advantages of having a real map on the screen...it just shows you simple graphics and tells you how to get to where you're going (voice)....good enough for my uses...may work for you...check it out...
www.hktrafficpro.com
http://www.blaupunktusa.com/travelpi...lot_index.html
http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/product_...nomy_id=25-112
I got an ES300 loaner the other day without nav and felt mild anxiety driving around like I wouldn't be able to find anything.
I luv my nav... I will always have one from now on. Is it perfect? No. But is it HUGELY valuable? Yes.
I luv my nav... I will always have one from now on. Is it perfect? No. But is it HUGELY valuable? Yes.
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Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 404
Likes: 0
From: California
I'm pretty familiar with the NAV systems for BMW and MB, and they are not NEARLY as good. I love it and use it daily, although it sometimes takes me on wierd routes. Being able to dial in a restaurant's name and have it take you there is killer!
Pole Position
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
From: Greenville, SC
I haven't really learned how to get full use of it yet, but just driving through a strange city, not missing exits, finding restaurants, etc. is excellent. As to opinions, it's kind of like so many other things, power windows, ABS, CDs, computers, etc., a large part of the population says they don't see a need for something new until they actually get it or get to use their friend's. Actually, seeing how handy it was during my one ride with Bitkahuna convinced me it was worth having. And you can't really appreciate how easy it is to program and find things until you do it yourself. MY advice -- take the plunge.
Driver School Candidate
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
From: OR
Is the price justified by the effort and expense of the technology? Yes, these are definitely not cheap to create. However, you are also paying a tremendous premium for cutting edge technology.
Is the price justified for the actual use that you will get from it in in the next several years? Unlikely, unless you spend 5 days a week in unfamiliar territory. Upwards of $US2k to avoid the occasional traffic jam?!? Well, you know what your billing rate is, but I won't honestly "save" >20 work hours using this in the next couple of years.
Most likely, the next several years will see both exponential improvements and cost reductions, and nav systems will be completely standard equipment in mid-range cars. And then will come the inevitable accidents and lawsuits, but that's another story. In the meantime, Thomas Guides and gas stations are much more cost-effective.
I wouldn't spend the cash to add it to another car, but I do have it in my Lexus, and I do make use of it when travelling, though relatively infrequently; I don't use it daily because I always figure out my routes before I get behind the wheel.
Is the price justified for the actual use that you will get from it in in the next several years? Unlikely, unless you spend 5 days a week in unfamiliar territory. Upwards of $US2k to avoid the occasional traffic jam?!? Well, you know what your billing rate is, but I won't honestly "save" >20 work hours using this in the next couple of years.
Most likely, the next several years will see both exponential improvements and cost reductions, and nav systems will be completely standard equipment in mid-range cars. And then will come the inevitable accidents and lawsuits, but that's another story. In the meantime, Thomas Guides and gas stations are much more cost-effective.
I wouldn't spend the cash to add it to another car, but I do have it in my Lexus, and I do make use of it when travelling, though relatively infrequently; I don't use it daily because I always figure out my routes before I get behind the wheel.
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 1,423
Likes: 0
From: CA
Originally posted by theanimala
I think this poll is very skewed in presenting what you want to see, that the Nav is useless. I cannot vote in it because you do not have the option E) I have the Nav, and I use it all the time.
I work in sales, and my territory consists of all of NJ, NY and CT. That is a huge territory and the NAV helps me out constantly. Perhaps if I lived in CO or someplace else midwest where all the roads are simple I wouldn't need it. But when I drive my other car without the NAV on the job, I almost always regret it.
I think this poll is very skewed in presenting what you want to see, that the Nav is useless. I cannot vote in it because you do not have the option E) I have the Nav, and I use it all the time.
I work in sales, and my territory consists of all of NJ, NY and CT. That is a huge territory and the NAV helps me out constantly. Perhaps if I lived in CO or someplace else midwest where all the roads are simple I wouldn't need it. But when I drive my other car without the NAV on the job, I almost always regret it.
Without it and even Mapquesting your route, I know I would have been lost many times already.
You just can't buy another car without NAV. By the way my other car's BMW NAV pales in comparision to the Lexus Touch screen NAV.
The only problem with the NAV is that it doesn't discriminate against bad neighborhoods, but still gets you to your destination!
Lexus Champion
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,970
Likes: 0
From: Kentucky
navi
i don't have navi in my 99 gs. I wish it would have come with it but you can buy aftermarket setups which are better in most regards. Kenwood's navi is too complicated to me imo, too troublesome. The alpine navi is nice and fairly easy to use, but i think pioneer is one of the nicest nav's on the market, alot more options than most, and i believe its voice based as well, cell phone directory, point of intrest. alot of nice features on pioneer's. But i think its a option that is useful.
Originally posted by SCamp
Is the price justified for the actual use that you will get from it in in the next several years? Unlikely, unless you spend 5 days a week in unfamiliar territory. Upwards of $US2k to avoid the occasional traffic jam?!? Well, you know what your billing rate is, but I won't honestly "save" >20 work hours using this in the next couple of years.
Is the price justified for the actual use that you will get from it in in the next several years? Unlikely, unless you spend 5 days a week in unfamiliar territory. Upwards of $US2k to avoid the occasional traffic jam?!? Well, you know what your billing rate is, but I won't honestly "save" >20 work hours using this in the next couple of years.
You say the 'occasional' traffic jam - well I live in Atlanta which is pretty bad as far as traffic. It's so nice to be able to scroll around the map when I'm 'stuck' to see if there might be a side street or some other route I don't know which can get me around it. I've done it dozens of times.
I like to put only certain brands of gas in my car. Sometimes if I'm low, even in a familiar area, I might not be sure where a gas station I'd like to go to is. I turn 'em on the map, touch a few, find one I want and go there.
I guarantee the nav has saved me 20+ work hours in the 3 years I've had it.
I don't use it daily because I always figure out my routes before I get behind the wheel.