GS400 vs. S500
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 6,084
Likes: 0
From: California
I don't think so...
S55 is pretty strong. Don't normally care for stoplight bragging rights but stock S500 and CL500 are not as fast as a GS4. I have driven all three and the S and CL are not as quick and don't feel as quick either. Not sure on specs and don't know if anyone has any heads up info but I would be a little surprised if either of the Mercs is sub six second 0-60, just didn't feel like it driving them. Of course the guy with the Z06 is doubled up in laughter at the site of a GS4/S500 "race" anyway.
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,031
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Specs:
S500
0-60: 6.1 secs
302 hp
339 Ibs/ft
4,133 ibs
CL500
0-60: 6.1 secs
Same engine specs
4,070 ibs
SL500
0-60: 6.1 secs (again....)
Same engine specs
4,125 ibs
___________________
2001 RX300/FWD/Silver/Black
1998 Q45t/Silver/Black
2000 I30t/Gold/Tan
S500
0-60: 6.1 secs
302 hp
339 Ibs/ft
4,133 ibs
CL500
0-60: 6.1 secs
Same engine specs
4,070 ibs
SL500
0-60: 6.1 secs (again....)
Same engine specs
4,125 ibs
___________________
2001 RX300/FWD/Silver/Black
1998 Q45t/Silver/Black
2000 I30t/Gold/Tan
Trending Topics
ClubLexus Stories
Celebrating Lexus & Toyota from Around the Globe
Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!
Joe Kucinski
Top 10 Lexus/Toyotas With The LEAST 5-Year Depreciation
Joe Kucinski
Lexus LC500 Convertible Auction: A Preview of Rising Values?
Brett Foote
GX 550 vs TX 550: Best 3-Row Luxury Lexus Family Hauler
Michael S. Palmer
9 Best Lexus Models You Can Buy for Half Price (And 1 You Shouldn't!)
Joe Kucinski
2026 Lexus NX Buyer's Guide: Models, Features, Prices & More!
Brett Foote
Top 10 Reasons to Buy a Lexus TX 550h+ (& 3 Reasons to AVOID!)
Michael S. Palmer
Top 10 Lexus & Toyota Models of the 1990s RANKED!
Joe Kucinski
10 Great Toyotas That Could Have Been Lexus Models
Joe Kucinski
can't beat them all!!!
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 6,084
Likes: 0
From: California
And now for the sacrilege. To tell you the truth, the CL600 felt about comparable to the GS430. Might be faster, might not, but it feels very close. The truth is that most of my comparable feeling comes from me driving the Mercs while my wife is following along in the GS. Hard to believe the S would pull the GS for top end. Great fun this.
Lead Lap
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
From: S. California
Not that strange
S500 has almost identical speeds as GS430, and it's 1/4 is actually 1 mile faster. That explains why it would pull harder on the freeway. Try to remember both are stock #'s, can't compare modded to stock.
Most people here don't like to see magazine test numbers because they read BS mags that gives out BS numbers...like C&D ,Motortrend. I like Road and Track, just read their test procedures...they will tell you exactally WHERE they did the testing and HOW they did it, along with other detailed information. They won't just say "ah...yeah GS goes from 0-60 in 5.7 secs" quote-Motortrend ;But they don't have ANY testing to back that claim up. R&T test numbers are more real. Just take a look at their testing...very detailed not just BS.
Sorry for the blurryness but It's a scan from my magazine.
Most people here don't like to see magazine test numbers because they read BS mags that gives out BS numbers...like C&D ,Motortrend. I like Road and Track, just read their test procedures...they will tell you exactally WHERE they did the testing and HOW they did it, along with other detailed information. They won't just say "ah...yeah GS goes from 0-60 in 5.7 secs" quote-Motortrend ;But they don't have ANY testing to back that claim up. R&T test numbers are more real. Just take a look at their testing...very detailed not just BS.
Sorry for the blurryness but It's a scan from my magazine.
I need some more practice with the E-shiftin.:eek:
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 6,084
Likes: 0
From: California
Any reported number is suspect. Knowing how the number was arrived at is good but not very useful for a given heads up on a given day. Pretty much the reason why they hold drag races instead of just mailing in your best time of the season and deciding who wins. And obviously we don't want to go near the magazines getting "special" cars which BMW seems to be doing intermittently while Lexus is just as much at fault not even having 17s on the majority of test GSs I have seen. I didn't instrument anything but under comparable situations, my feeling is that the GS430 would be slightly but consistently quicker than the S500 and CL500. Can you eat up half a second in reaction time? Definitely. That's what is so great about bragging about street racing. None of the "events" are comparable. Someone will inevitably get a jump. So what do the published numbers mean? Not much, really. Both damn fine cars. A huge percentage of the public at large would love to have either one. There will always be someone with a quicker car than what you have.